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Hi guys, I was reading the RAVE manual to see which washer pump is the windscreen one, but I have just noticed that RAVE seems only to refer to a LHD vehicle.

Are the washer pumps [and reservoir] located on the passenger side of the vehicle, whether the vehicle is LHD or RHD ? Or are they on the drivers's side, if we go by the RAVE manual ?

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Shd be rhs regardless, but i wd go by which side your blue filler cap is on... I think i'm going to need to replace my pump v soon too

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Hi, thanks for the reply. In that case I will go for drivers' side, as that is where the filler tube is, on the left of the radiator.

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Dunno what version of RAVE you are looking at but my version just says remove RH wheel arch liner? For left and right it is always as seen sitting in the drivers seat looking forwards so RH will always be the right side of the car irrespective of which side the driver sits. There's 3 identical pumps there but the easy way of identifying which is which is to look at the colour of the electrical plug, Red plug is front screen washer pump, White plug is Headlamp washer pump and Black plug is rear screen washer pump.

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RHS while sitting in the car. On the drivers side for a UK RHD car. On the passenger side for a LHD car.
You can see it if you lie on your back.

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Dunno if the actual pump is the same but the sockets on the OEM ones are colour coded to match the plugs. I got a pattern set (Britpart I think) and these were also colour coded.

As I recall it just pulling the bumper forward, with appropriate supports, made room to do mine. Hate those wheel arch liner plug clip things!

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those liner plug clip things are called quick rivets for ordering purposes.

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Thanks for all the replies.

Gilbertd, in the RAVE manual it doesn't distinguish between LHD and RHD, but the image shows a LHD vehicle. That was why I was wondering did it matter which side the driver is on, or is the water reservoir and washer pumps always on the RHS. It seems that it is always on the right.

Thanks, dave3d, that means it's always on the RHS.

The information about the plug colour is useful as, again, RAVE doesn't mention that [I don't think]. I know it shows the location of each pump in the diagram but doesn't mention that they are different colours. I suppose you would soon find out when you get under the vehicle.

I had a look under the bonnet while checking the lack of pressure but I didn't see the non-return valve. Where is this situated, could someone tell me ? I see that the water rubber tube seems to go down the back of the components connected to the fuse board and battery area, but does that mean it drops down to the chassis member and then run forward to the reservoir ? I am thinking of ordering a new non-return valve as I can hear the pump working, although I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that it is working properly. Maybe I would be as well ordering a new pump as well, just in case.

Lastly, if I can ask - I saw a mention somewhere of removing the foglight cover, to access the pumps, if the bumper bolts are seized. Are the fixings for the foglight on the outside of the vehicle ? Is it any easier than removing the bumper ?

Many thanks for the help. Pierre3.

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I've now found the diagram you mention in the Description and Operation bit. I rarely look at that, I know how it works I need to know how to fix it so go straight to the Repairs section on everything. If there is a difference between Left and Right hand drive, there will be two pictures showing both variations such as with the brake pipe layout (even though in that case the labelling is wrong so it says it is for LHD vehicles but clearly shows the brake pedal on the RHS..

RAVE does tell you the colours of the plugs but only if you known how to read the ETM. For example, looking at the diagram it shows the the plug going to the front screen pump is C193, if you then look at the connection data for C193 it shows it as 2W-R, signifying two wires and coloured RED, you can then click on + next to C193 and it shows the front view and a photo of the location.

Non-return valve should be where the diagram shows it, against the bulkhead, behind the coolant header tank, the diagram also shows the pipe run.

Foglights are secured to the inside of the front bumper, two screws at the top that go in horizontally and two vertical ones at the bottom. Chances are they will be as seized, if not even more so, as the bumper bolts

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Hi, very many thanks for your excellent information.

I disconnected the washer pipe, under the bonnet, and followed it back, as you say, under the header tank. I didn't realise that the non-return valve is so small. It was only looking down beside the wiring loom that I saw the valve down under the header tank. Fortunately, there was enough length on the washer pipe to be able to pull it back and just up onto the wing, where I could test the pressure from the pump.

It is the NR Valve that is dodgy, I opened it up and found stuff inside the body, so I decided to take out the spring and diaphragm and let the water flow the the valve. I will replace it when the new valve arrives, but at least, currently, I have good working windscreen washers.

It is useful to have the details about the pump wiring. I will make a note of it.

Pierre3.