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Asking for a favour, maybe a bit of an odd request but I'm not trying to get anyone to send me illegal substances hehe.

This is a link to the seal part I need https://magictiltparts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=72 , ideally I need 8 of those but 6 would suffice if 8 wouldn't fit in a padded envelope.

I need some axle seals for my boat trailer, the trailer was made by MagicTilt in Florida using components (like axle stuff) sourced from another US company called UFP (maybe now known as Dexter Group). I contacted the trailer manufacturer who told me they don't keep records more than 10 years but if I removed a hub and sent them pictures and measurements they'd be able to tell me what parts I need. I sent them the info and this is the list of parts they sent me...

PE1101 is the part number to the bearing kit ( see below )

BEARING KIT 1-1/16″[UFP STYLE]
Kit Includes:
Part Description QTY
PE1400 BEARING 1-1/16″ [44649] 2
PE1710 RACE 1″ OR 1-1/16″ [44610] 2
PE2015 1-1/16″SEAL [UFP] [198-138] 1
PH2012 COTTER PIN 1/8″X1-1/4″[UFP AXLE] 1

I can buy all those parts in the UK except the PE2015 1-1/16" SEAL [UFP] [198-138] seals. The seals are an odd size at 1.98" OD and 1.38" ID and I can't even find any info on how wide the seals are. I think maybe the seals are an odd size in all dimensions so UFP / Dexter Group could have the monopoly in supply of replacement components to match the axles etc they sold the trailer manufacturers. It seems my best bet to make sure I'm buying the correct seals would be to buy the UFP / Dexter Group seals they listed but MagicTilt parts, UFP / Dexter Group and none of the dealers I've contacted so far have been willing to sell to me in the UK.

That same link again... https://magictiltparts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=72
8 Of those ideally but 6 would suffice.

The reason why I want 8 is because the trailer has 4 wheels, I'm not going to change the bearings yet but want to clean and regrease them which means removing the rear bearings which means removing the rear seal, it's very likely the rear seals will be damaged during removal. So that's 4 seals I need even though I'm not changing the bearings yet. I'll buy 2 sets of bearings in the UK to keep as spares but I'll need 2 spare seals to go with the spare bearings, so now we're up to a total of 6, but I might as well buy 2 extra seals while I'm at it since they're difficult to get hold of in the UK and they're only $4 each.

If there's someone in the US happy to do it the idea is I send them money to cover buyng 8 of those seals, shipping to them, shipping from them to me in the UK and the cost of a padded envelope. They would probably want to open the package the supplier sent to them and put in a new padded envelope to satisfy themselves it is just 8 axle seals and not illegal stuff they'd be forwarding to me.

I understand if nobody is up for it, in which case I'll ask my daughter-in-law's aunt who lives in Louisianna to do it for me. The reason I'm asking here first is because she's not familiar with vehicle / trailer parts and because she might feel obligated if I ask and not say if she wasnt comfortable with it, while there might be people on this forum who are more familiar with sending small vehicle parts over the pond and wouldn't offer to get involved if they were not comfortable with it.

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Aloha Simon,
I would be happy to assist.
Actually, I am in Southern California currently and there are several places near by that probably have them in stock.
I will check......

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Simon,
To be sure, what is the outside diameter of the seal and it's thickness?

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Thanks for the reply @Bolt

It is OD 1.98" ID 1.38" but I don't know the thickness.

I believe it is a bit special anyway, being made especially for boat trailers that get dipped in saltwater. It could be a special part that only fits axles supplied to the trailer makers by UFP / Dexter.

I think the best bet would be to buy the exact UFP part that MagicTiltParts lists on their website

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I can have 8 of them in my hand in 15 minutes......
They are $6.00 each.
These are from a very reputable trailer service center called West Coast Trailers in Huntington Beach CA.
If the owner, who is a crusty old bugger says they are the correct part, I have to believe him!
The quality should be at least OE, if not better.
Let me know soon and I will pick them up.
If you prefer the manufacturer, that is fine too. I can order them tomorrow and re ship when I get them.
Your choice.
Tom

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Oh,
It's a common part that several manufacturers use on their trailers.
Jeremy services trailers from all over the US, Canada, and Mexico......

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If you still have one of those things called a "land line", I can ring, if you like.
Free for me.....
You can PM me with the number....

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Sorry the delay for my reply, I knew my laptop battery was about to die and it did die just I clicked send on my last message, put the laptop on charge just while I added another coat of varnish to a piece of wood I'm making for the boat.

Thanks very much Bolt, yes please!

I know UFP made bearings, seals, axles, etc, for a wide range of trailer manufacturers, not just boat trailer manufactures. I just want to make sure any seals I buy are the correct ones for my my boat trailer that gets dipped in seawater, stainless retainers for the axle seal etc, pretty much the exact spec that MagicTiltParts lists and made by UFP / Dexter. If you're sure you can get the same spec from the local trailer place that's great, any doubt I'd prefer them to come from MagicTiltParts or one of their dealers.

I had to think twice whether we still have a landline hehe, I don't think we do or if we do we don't have a phone plugged into it. But if you use Whatsapp on your phone we could talk for free that way? It's 615pm here and I'm just about to leave work to go shopping, promised my son I'd play a computer game with him after that, so today might not be the best time. But I could send you money for those parts now and more money when we know how much packing and shipping costs will be if you like?

Thanks again @Bolt :)

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No worries,
I will confirm that the parts are fit for purpose.
Don't worry about the money for now. I will get the parts and send them next week.
You caught me in the right place at the right time as I will be heading out on the 1k mile return home
Tomorrow morning at 0300 .
No what's app.
I will grab them now.....
Cheers,
Tom

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Heh, I replied to your phone txt message before I saw your last post above.

OK if you're happy to do it that way... Thanks a lot!

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Thanks Tom @Bolt

The parts Tom sent me arrived yesterday, now as soon as I get a bit of time I can check, clean and re-pack the bearings using the new seals.

That worked out great!

Cheers Tom,

Simon.