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do I dare buy another RR 🤔 or just keep with one
was offered a 4ltr V8 on a 2001 plate needs some work for the mot so not to sure if I wanna take the risk

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I paid £600 for the Ascot with a list of failure points on the MoT that ran to a second page. Two days after picking it up (and driving it 90 miles home), it passed the MoT. Most of the things a P38 fail on are the sort of things a specialist will charge a lot of money to sort out (and a non-specialist will just tell you to scrap the car) but if you are already familiar with them and know how to do the work yourself, there's nothing difficult, as you probably already know. If the price is right, go for it.

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srs light on dash
horn not working
exhaust back box leaking
and excessive oil leak
all majors for mot
srs/horn not working could point to steering wheel coupler
exhaust is easy enough to do just straight though system from the cats
oil leak could be something simple .
it on a 51 plate and still on air the previous owner hated the idea of springs so had the whole air system reconditioned

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Nothing to worry about there, as you say, SRS and horn likely to be rotary coupler, exhaust is no biggie and if it didn't leak oil I'd say there wasn't any in it. Excessive is subjective too, what is minor to one tester is excessive to another. Blast the underside with a pressure washer before taking it for test, you'll probably be able to see where it is leaking from then too. Worst case it will be a oil cooler hose.

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yeah depends on the oil could be power steering pipe I e not looked under it yet

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If I was offered another P38 I'd run away as soon as possible But at end of the day it's your decision

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@symes to be honest it bad enough with my 2.5td let alone a V8 I'd be worried I'd blow the head on it lol

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Conversely, I wouldn't touch a diesel if it was for free. At least if a head gasket blows on a V8 you just put another one on it, they don't crack heads like the diesel. Grille needs a coat of bumper black, headlamp wash wipe and front fogs says it's at least an SE. As said, if the price is right, go for it.

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they going to let me know price on Monday
think it been stood for year mot was in dec 2020 with 00 miles on test
mot in Dec 2019 it had 154k on the clock
is a SE a good model

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Going from the top down, you've got Vogue, HSE, SE, S and base (although you could only get the base spec with a diesel engine). Having looked at the specs, painted bumpers suggests it's not an SE but an HSE or Vogue, so will have all the toys.

Not a huge mileage then. If EAS is working fine and everything else is OK, it'll only be things like tyres that will cost bigger money. As you know, everything else is repairable but gearbox, transfer case, diffs, etc should all be fine so no worries there. No FIP, stretching chains and hot start bodgery to worry about and after driving a diesel you will astounded at how fast it is.

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@symes to be honest it bad enough with my 2.5td let alone a V8 I'd be worried I'd blow the head on it lol

My pick up P38 got 4.6 Toyota diesel V8 going in it ---- built from scratch but Dyno,d 300 hp and vogue laid up till I can be bothered with it ---- just too much goes wrong with it to be reliable ---- don't need computer every week with a TDI vogue might become breaker yet

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I owned two P38s for a time and maintaining them both did get a bit expensive. But I also didn’t know nearly as much about them as I do now. Eventually I parked the second and used it for parts and as a reference, and that worked out great.

So if this vehicle is priced right I’d take it regardless of your plans.

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I've got the 2.5 dse it's not to bad at the minute it has most definitely taught me about owning a RR
the one I've been offered is a straight petrol no LPG kit on it

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All the ones I've bought have already had LPG, none of them worked at the time but simple enough to put right. I've got a tank and complete multipoint system I took off a 4.0 litre so even that isn't insurmountable. You'd probably find a V8 on LPG to be cheaper, or at least the same, to run than a diesel.

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thats the only thing is the fuel consumption with out the kit on it would be about 18mpg on a good run

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Depends on how you drive it. On the 4.6 Vogue I'm half owner of, I averaged 23 mpg on a cross country run, obviously it would drop running around town or if you poked the Sport button and floored it everywhere.

I bought my first Range Rover, a long wheelbase Classic with the 4.2 V8, running on LPG. The guy I bought it from (a mate of a mate), replaced it with a P38 DSE but found the DSE more expensive to run. The V8 would do around 15mpg on LPG so a cost equivalent of 30mpg or thereabouts while he found the DSE so gutless in comparison he thrashed it mercilessly to try to get something like equivalent performance that it never did better than 24mpg. With the difference in cost between diesel and petrol, there isn't going to be a lot in it compared to running on petrol, LPG just makes running a V8 a similar cost to a normal saloon car.

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karlos01 wrote:

thats the only thing is the fuel consumption with out the kit on it would be about 18mpg on a good run

I bought mine in Newcastle, and drove up to the nth of Scotland the same afternoon - about 280 'motorway miles'. According to the car's computer I was averaging about 25mpg. That's a 4.0L V8 with no LPG fitted.

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My vogue was at 13mpg round town on a motorway 25 average consumption according to the on board computer of 17mpg The P38 got enough gremlins without adding more like LPG in my opinion not only that it's hard to get around where I live

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karlos01 wrote:

thats the only thing is the fuel consumption with out the kit on it would be about 18mpg on a good run

I bought mine in Newcastle, and drove up to the nth of Scotland the same afternoon - about 280 'motorway miles'. According to the car's computer I was averaging about 25mpg. That's a 4.0L V8 with no LPG fitted.

that is good mpg consumption for a petrol