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I'm going to be removing the LPG kit from my 2007 4.2 Supercharged L322.

It's a BRC kit with a Fly SF ECU. It's got twin BRC Genius MB1500 reducers (less then 12 months old) and a pumped flash lube system with it. I believe the tank is around 95 litres in capacity and isn't far off full either!

Is anybody interested in purchasing the kit once it's been removed? It will be removed carefully with nothing cut or broken.

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If you don't get any takers on here, try https://www.lpgforum.co.uk/

It might help to say where you are, as anyone interested in the tank would need to pick it up as well.

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Good point, Brian.

I’m in Glasgow but could meet somewhere between here and Manchester.

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Just out of interest, what is a used LPG kit worth?

Includes tank (full), wiring, ECU, injectors, inlet ports for a 4.2 Supercharged Jag/Land Rover, Flashlube reservoir (full) with pump and plumbing, reducers (4.5k miles on them), and all associated pipework.

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How long is a piece of string? If someone has an identical car and wants to convert it, then not much less than new price. If someone wants to buy it to see if they can make it work on a different car, they aren't going to gamble too much and will offer not a lot.

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Also depends how old it is - they are supposed to be tested after 10 years, if thats a concern to someone, then the tank is effectively scrap (And a pain to get rid of). If its fairly within test and not rusty (externally mounted ones suffer in this respect) it should be saleable, though what you'd get for it is very much down to luck. It may also help its value if you have the tank certificate (which would say the test date, though that should be stamped on the tank as well it may not be visibile once its been installed)

You say your going to remove it - if its still installed, is there a good reason why your not using up the lpg in the tank first? It would make it easier to deal with as it would reduce the weight of the tank. Or is it only partly installed now and not possible to do so?

It might be worth seeing if Simon (LPGC) shows any interest though I'd guess he would have already been in touch if it was.

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BrianH wrote:

You say your going to remove it - if its still installed, is there a good reason why your not using up the lpg in the tank first? It would make it easier to deal with as it would reduce the weight of the tank. Or is it only partly installed now and not possible to do so?

I started doing work on the car a couple of months ago. I’ve replaced every single bush and ball joint on it, replaced both diffs, all 4 wheel bearings, etc.

Ever since I’ve had the car it’s had a bit of a misfire when cold for a few minutes until it had warmed up. Once it had warmed up it ran perfectly. After I’d done all the suspension work I had the car running on the ramp and the misfire started to really annoy me so I started checking thoroughly for vacuum leaks. I found one under the charge coolers so removed them. Whilst they were off I decided I’d replace the valve cover gaskets as they were weeping oil.

When the valve cover gaskets were stripped off I checked the valve clearances and found that on cylinder 1 (the one logging the misfires) there was zero valve clearance. In the end I removed the heads and you can actually see the way the valves have recessed into the heads despite it having flashlube installed.

It’s a common fault on these engines with LPG fitted. This one has done around 77k on LPG according to the service history.

I managed to get a brand new set of cylinder heads from eBay so I’m fitting these and am not refitting the LPG hence not being able to run the tank down before removing it. I could put 12v to the solenoid and use it for the BBQ though I guess. 🤔

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One thing that is intriguing about this kit is the pipe work from the tank to the solenoid at the front and to the reducers… it’s rubber, not copper.

Makes it a joy to remove but I’ve never seen it done in rubber before.

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Probabbly Faro or similar polypipe - its much easier to route than the copper stuff is, you just need the ends to mate it to whatever its going to.

Figured as much with the tank contents, Could use it on the BBQ if you can mate it to a suitable regulator, but you'd be using it for some time (and still have to get it out of the car to do so). If its a single hole type tank, you could remove the solenoid post and use the manual shutoff instead as an alternative to feeding the solenoid.

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I’m fairly certain it’s a 4 hole tank that’s fitted but not 100% as its been a while since I’ve had a look at it.

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BrianH wrote:

It might be worth seeing if Simon (LPGC) shows any interest though I'd guess he would have already been in touch if it was.

Could say I've got a 'nodding interest' but I'm watching the thread more out of general interest than out of interest in buying myself.

I wouldn't normally go much out of my way to buy second hand bits but if the tank is a 720x270 4 hole(?) I'd be interested in that if you were closer... and interest in that might make me more interested in the job lot in case you didn't want to sell parts separately. A long shot for me though, probably wouldn't be up for meeting North of Manchester anytime soon.

Would advise advertising the parts on Ebay and LPGforum, as Gilbert said if the ad is seen by the right buyer they'll pay a much better price than someone like me.

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Thanks Simon.

I’m not sure on the dimensions of the tank off the top of my head.

It’s a 94 litre 4 hole tank that lives in the spare wheel well on the car. It was filled the day before I dismantled my car back in February so wouldn’t be able to courier it.

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That's a good advert you've done on LPGForum ;-)

Does the lube system inject lube into the gas feed between reducer and injectors (most of that design/make do but some of the more recent ones are capable of injecting lube into the inlet manifold, where-as the old type couldn't feed into a vacuum)? I would never fit a type that injects lube into the feed between reducer and injectors because you tend to find that the lube fluid all goes out of the first (or lowest) injector it gets to, so you end up with one or two cylinders getting most of the fluid and others getting little fluid. Lube fluid also clogs injectors leading to early injector failures and inconsistent fuelling even before failures (imagine a load of fluid that had pooled in pipes suddenly reaching an injector). I say all this in case it sways you to keep the system and switch to a different type of lube system, though I know that's not likely ;-)

Or.. before fitting the heads could fit some tougher valves?

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It does indeed inject into the supply pipe from the reducers to the injectors.

It had been done quite neatly but in 77k miles it's still caused problems. I had a quote of around £2k to do the valve seats but given the fact I'm doing 4-5k a year at most it's just not worth the hassle/expense I don't think.

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I see what you mean David @dhallworth.