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Anyone actually tried this yet ? (Happy to continue to use RAVE with Windows 7 but I am sure some on here may have already done this) ?

PS: Just googling it led me to " RAVE: Reproducible Analysis and Visualization of intracranial Electroencephalography ".. Hmmmm....

PPS: BTW I just reached a seminal point with Windows 10 when I had enough of all their forced 'Updates'
and unrequested changes, (including to various other non-M/S Apps that they did not 'lke' either...)

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I would think it depends on what version of RAVE you are running. If you are running the official UK version with the embedded Acrobat reader V4, you are probably stuck with Windoze (although I'm running it in compatibility mode under Win 10). If you are running the cut down version all you will need is a .pdf reader of some sort.

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Thanks Richard, that's good advice - I will indeed avoid the 'full fat' RAVE and stick with the .pdfs: Loads of (free) Linux readers too !

(I also recall when RAVE suddenly did not work on WIN10 - as M/S, with one (forced) update, just made it Adobe 4 'incompatible' for
some reason (control): Took hours to realise it too ...as I thought it was something I had done...)

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There's a work around for it suddenly stopping working under Win 10, see https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/rave-not-running-under-windows-10.346140/. I did that and the full version has worked perfectly ever since. I don't like the cut down one as it is from LRNAS so is US biased rather than being the proper one. The differences are minor but they are there.

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Just buy the manual :-)

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Richard: Yes, thanks, I (eventually) realised about the (compatibility) workaround and used it too; It's just that I did not expect a win10 'Update' to stop RAVE working !
(Indeed that is when I first realised what their so-called 'Updates' did, and that it is virtually impossible to stop them - and I was also first 'convinced' to move to Linux on a M/S 'help' site where someone had lost numerous apps. like that and stated "F*** you M/S I am off to Linux !" They had a point.....)

Romanrob: i already (originally) did buy one, before 'digital' versions were available: It's about 5 times heavier than my laptop though and cost almost as much back then too...

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But I do really like a good old fashioned paper copy in the garage. I can easily scribble any notes I would like for the next time I do the job.

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I just print out the relevant page when I need it and throw it away when I've finished. Common ones are head bolt and inlet manifold tightening torque and order and the brake bleeding process. If I was using a paper manual, there would be some pages that would be totally illegible from oily fingerprints! A bit like years ago when you could get a Haynes manual from the library if you needed one, you could tell what jobs others had been doing as the book would fall open at various pages.

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That is true.

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Search for the "RAVE All Models" version. Unzip the file, and open "rave-lr.pdf" instead of the exe file.

Works on my Win & Mac-OSX laptops. I guess it will work on Linux as well.

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My answer to the oily fingerprint problem with my RAVE printout was to use ring binders and put the pages in transparent sleeves. 5-Star brand are affordable and decent quality. Name brand ones like Rexel were stupid expensive when I did the printout thing.

Ring binders make it easy to assemble a job specific manual by pulling pages out as needed and temporarily putting them into a workshop binder. Pulling pages can be a faff but it helps get round the hop about from one section to another issue that makes dead tree RAVE harder to use than electronic Rave which does the jumps automatically. I find pulling pages helpful to remind me of how I need to do the job and what tools to set out.

Another ring binder holds useful stuff collected from the internet, forums et al. Mostly extra explanations, how I did it et al. Not forgetting the Nanocom manual.

Dead tree RAVE in ring binders needs about 3 ft of shelf space tho'.

Uneconomic if you only have an inkjet printer tho'. My old LaserJet MP4+ did the deed affordably. Albeit one side at a time. 40 pages a night got it done in acceptable time without going crosseyed.

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Which version did you print ?? Even the "One File PDF" for P38 is >> 5000 pages !!

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Pete

Just looked and turns out it wasn't RAVE itself that I printed out. It was pdf versions of the hard copy manuals :-

LRL 0326 ENG for mechanicals and body

LRL 0086 ENG for electrical

Only (!) 2,000 pages.

Sorry but it was around 11 years ago. Found the files on one of the sites offering RAVE at teh time (maybe Green Oval) so I remembered it as the same thing.

5,000 pages is bit much even for me.

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The RAVE download here (https://rangerovers.pub/downloads/rave.zip) is just a bloody big Zip file of the PDFs. It works on any OS that has a PDF reader.

Lately I've noticed that Evince, the PDF reader that comes with Ubuntu, complains about links between documents, which seems to be some wacky political decision on the part of the devs that I haven't had time to dig into, but it works just fine if you browse to the PDF you want. Most of the time I'm in ~/rave/pdfs/lp/ and either reading the ETM (file starts with et) or Workshop manual (file starts with wm).