And on that note, I’ve always really appreciated the help we get on this forum. I’m even more thankful now for Richard and Gordon (and perhaps a few more?) for keeping.pub going.

Don't forget Gilbert :-D

th.

Btw I just noticed that I registered on the other side twenty years ago. Am I getting old?

Yes, by Richard I mean Gilbert.

Maybe Frankie can explain it ; )

Admin’s attitude towards FF is just unreal. It’s literally like this: Here’s this AI feature that’s half baked, nobody wants, but we’re pushing it through anyway. Any and all comments regarding it will just be ignored cause look how I can make it summarize threads so I don’t have to read the actual posts and make it easier to ignore the comments. Even when the inaccuracy of its answers are shown, just ignore it cause it’s getting people to post and boost numbers which is all we really want. It’s not about the content, it’s about the numbers. So here it is, don’t complain cause it won’t matter and we’re going to axe your top moderator/admin cause he’s being vocal about not wanting AI on the forum. Yup, that’s pretty much it.

If anyone does a Google search for 'foraFrank' they will find the identical garbage posts being made n a number of other VS owned forums. In many cases with similar responses to those on RR.net. However, they simply don't understand technical forums. The ones they own seem to be split into two categories, the technical, often car based, ones and the discussion forums where they have a theme but are mainly for people with a similar interest who just want to chat about it. Traffic on all forums is falling. On the discussion forums people are migrating to facebook groups instead. On the technical ones for a specific car or cars, numbers will fall. In the case of rr.net, there are technical forums for L405, L460 and Evoque but anyone likely to own one of those isn't going to get their hands dirty, to them it is just a car. In the case of the L320, P38 and Classic, numbers will fall as cars are scrapped, written off or abandoned in a barn somewhere. With advice from a forum there have been a number of people that have been able to sort out a problem with their car that they admitted would otherwise have been scrapped. No amount of AI is going to stop that.
Gilbertd, aka Richard_G

I asked FF to give me the part numbers for a Mahle oil filter, Mahle CareMetix cabin filter and Hengst air intake filter. I told it exactly what car and engine, even the power output. Got every filter wrong. I posted the correct part numbers. Later I asked again, maybe it learned, the info is right there. I got a completely different set of part numbers from the original wrong list of part numbers that were still wrong. Then I asked for the Mahle/Behr oil cooler part number. FF gave me an LR reference part number for the TCCM and a part number that doesn’t even exist in Mable’s catalog. I also asked it which side of the car, while sitting in the driver’s seat, the primary turbo is on an L405 4.4 SDV8. He said the driver’s side. Not left or right. So guess LR flips the turbos around if it’s LHD or RHD. Another member asked it why the backseat map lights didn’t come on when he opened the doors in his L320. FF sent him on a wild goose chase when in reality they were not made to work when you open the doors. With Admin just ignoring members concerns and condescending attitude towards it all I think the old hands will start looking elsewhere cause they definitely showed what they think of the forum community et al.

This particular ai seems to be trained with the philosophy of
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit!"
Sadly, it seems like most of the folks who have joined in on the dark side lately cannot tell the difference......
Franken freak is nothing if not confident, obsequious, and waaaay too chirpy!
Once the VS owners drive away Gilbert and Richard (I know, same scizzo guy)
The forum can do nothing but fail.
Just gotta wonder, what would Toad Hall have to say???!

Bolt wrote:

Just gotta wonder, what would Toad Hall have to say???!

Good point, he would have been apoplectic! They didn't like the fact that some of my posts were a little, shall we say, blunt (on one of my appraisements at work years ago the comment "does not suffer fools gladly" was added).

As brash as Toad was, he could often be quite helpful. I would rather have the brashness of someone like Toad than the politeness of some AI that really isn’t at all helpful.

There are a few numpties on there that deserve their threads being tagged with FFrankie