Also point out that if their machine shows anything but zero on the rear, it hasn't been mounted properly.
Gilbertd wrote:
Also point out that if their machine shows anything but zero on the rear, it hasn't been mounted properly.
I’m convinced it will be the steering box and they won’t know much about this car, so they will probably adjust the drag link to attempt to fix it (assuming this is a valid method)
I’ll get them to adjust the toe first and then touch the steering box.
Maybe print the Steering Adjustment section from the RAVE Workshop Manual for them ?
(Pages 706-707 in all the RAVE versions I have checked)
Why do you think it is the steering box? Was it driving straight before you paid someone that doesn't understand how it works start playing with it? If the problem was tyre wear, then that should have told you what it was. Wearing the inside edges is too much toe out, wearing the outside edges is too much toe in, wearing both inside and outside is too low pressure. Squealing when turning sharply may be low pressure or could also be a seized viscous coupling. As you destroyed a front propshaft, unless it was extremely worn and had never seen a grease gun in the entire life of the car, I would still suspect the viscous.
Gilbertd wrote:
Why do you think it is the steering box? Was it driving straight before you paid someone that doesn't understand how it works start playing with it? If the problem was tyre wear, then that should have told you what it was. Wearing the inside edges is too much toe out, wearing the outside edges is too much toe in, wearing both inside and outside is too low pressure. Squealing when turning sharply may be low pressure or could also be a seized viscous coupling. As you destroyed a front propshaft, unless it was extremely worn and had never seen a grease gun in the entire life of the car, I would still suspect the viscous.
Regardless of where I left the toe, the car kept on moving left.
So I've just returned from the mechanic - it's a lost cause. I said I need toe OUT between 0.5 and 0.15, so he set the figure to -0.8, (adamant on this meaning TOE OUT), yet now it still veers to the left.
I'm spending far too much time than I'd like on this car. In true humour, the glovebox opened up once again, so I'll tighten the screws soon, and the airbag light illuminated - which I suspect is a dodgy ABS sensor.
What if the steering box is off? What if I even have a sticky calliper? I am within my depth, but I don't like how much of my mental energy this is consuming! Luckily, there's a Landrover 4X4 garage nearby that does it all, so I'm going to ring them tomorrow and see what they say.
Yeah, the VC is still on my mind - the previous owner mentioned he greased it yearly. Another reason - I did get my alignment done from KwikFit, and it actually worked - steering straight and did not drag, but it did not hold for too long.
You've found a dickhead. A minus figure for toe is toe IN, which is why it is pulling to the left. Taking it somewhere that understands a steering box is far better than KwikFit. It's only taking as much time and energy as it is because you are entrusting it to people that don't know what they are doing (and charging you for the privilege).
A sticky calliper would cause it to pull one way and the easy check for that is to check to see if one front wheel is hotter than the other immediately you stop driving. The hot one is the sticky one.
If the steering box is a long way off centre, then the power steering will cause it to centre incorrectly but it has to be a long way off. With the wheels pointing straight ahead it is simple enough to open the bonnet and look at the pointer on the steering column collar.
Airbag light has nothing to do with an ABS sensor. Do you mean the ABS light?
You can't grease the viscous coupling, it is a sealed unit inside the transfer case.
Gilbertd wrote:
You've found a dickhead. A minus figure for toe is toe IN, which is why it is pulling to the left. Taking it somewhere that understands a steering box is far better than KwikFit. It's only taking as much time and energy as it is because you are entrusting it to people that don't know what they are doing (and charging you for the privilege).
A sticky calliper would cause it to pull one way and the easy check for that is to check to see if one front wheel is hotter than the other immediately you stop driving. The hot one is the sticky one.
If the steering box is a long way off centre, then the power steering will cause it to centre incorrectly but it has to be a long way off. With the wheels pointing straight ahead it is simple enough to open the bonnet and look at the pointer on the steering column collar.
Airbag light has nothing to do with an ABS sensor. Do you mean the ABS light?
You can't grease the viscous coupling, it is a sealed unit inside the transfer case.
It wasn't KwikFit, oddly enough, they were the ones who got it right the first time but "we charge £80 but between you and I, I can do it for £50 cash" threw me off. Not going there again.
Will give it a try tomorrow, thanks.
I did open the bonnet (it actually opened when I assumed it was stuck. Probably got lucky), but I did not know what I was looking at. I know which side it is located, but with the LPG setup in the way, I wasn't sure where exactly to point my eyes at. I'm going to use a bright torch and dig my head deeper down lol.
Sorry, yes. ABS light - my old P38 had this issue. Then, I had my Nancom to inform me of which side it was. I'll disconnect one at a time to clean the connector and see if it makes any difference. If so, that's the side to replace.
VC - meaning he greased the propshaft UJs yearly.
v8vroom wrote:
I did open the bonnet (it actually opened when I assumed it was stuck. Probably got lucky), but I did not know what I was looking at. I know which side it is located, but with the LPG setup in the way, I wasn't sure where exactly to point my eyes at. I'm going to use a bright torch and dig my head deeper down lol.
I posted the pictures from RAVE in your other thread. The steering box is on the end of the steering column so on the RH side of the car (unless your car is LHD for some obscure reason).