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Anyone up for this? I had the only P38 at it last year, it would be nice to get a wee squad of us up. Details on the website are sparse at the moment but usually on the Saturday it's the "proper" competitions (Tyro, RTV and CCV) and on the Sunday it's a free-for-all around the (quite large) field. There's camping on site, which might be a laugh.

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Mebbe, as long as it's not too hard core.

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Which month are we talking, may or June ? Depending on work load I might be interested

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I think the clue was in the topic title.. ;-) May

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They have an RTV class which should be ideal for stock vehicles, although you need a Throttle Safety Spring (?) to join in, apparently.
It sounds fun, but my assistant is away that weekend so I'll have to be on call :(

I do fancy a convoy of P38s at some point!

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Are P38s drive-by-wire, or direct throttle cable?

If the former, google suggests non safety springs required.

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Petrol P38's are a wire throttle cable from the pedal to the throttle body. Diesel P38's are drive-by-wire, and the pedal connects to a potentiometer which then feeds the engine ECU a position of the pedal

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If any of the gang need a halfway house on the journey north, I'm sure accommodation could be arranged....

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Martyuk wrote:

Petrol P38's are a wire throttle cable from the pedal to the throttle body. Diesel P38's are drive-by-wire, and the pedal connects to a potentiometer which then feeds the engine ECU a position of the pedal

So just us petrol heads that need to worry about springs then.

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I'm in France the previous weekend but would like to get up there. Even if only to swell the numbers of P38's......

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For those of us that haven't heard of the Throttle Safety Spring... isn't that what the P38 has anyway on the throttle body? It's sprung loaded so it's closed by default - if the throttle is released, or the cable fails etc, then the throttle plate will snap shut on the spring in the mechanism anyway?

Or it is this an EXTRA spring?

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I know less than the guy standing next to me at the bar, but the random googlage suggested it is an extra spring in case the first one fails.

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Might be worth clarifying at some point... or maybe Gordon knows if he's been before...

The petrol P38's, at least my Thor, has 3 springs on the throttle assembly - one on the throttle cable, to return it back to idle if the pedal is released, one on the cruise control cable to do the same (again if either of the cables failed that input would then release all tension) and then there is a 3rd spring on the throttle butterfly itself.

I'm just curious now :)

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Sounds to me like something that was a really good idea on a 1960 landrover and they've stuck with it since....
but hey. Safety is good I guess.

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I've only ever done the Tyro but apparently recovery rings are needed for the RTV. Having seen what passes for a recovery ring on some of the "all the gear but no idea" Defenders that come out to play, I reckon the factory towing eye is more than up to the job of a straight tow, but I wouldn't want to snatch it.

You shouldn't get so far in as to need it on an RTV, anyway.

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Excuse my ignorance, but what does RTV stand for?

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Road Trim Vehicle, or Road Taxed Vehicle depending on who you ask. As in, it may be modified a bit but it has to get to and from site legally under its own steam.

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Road Taxed Vehicles see http://www.alrc.co.uk/Handbook/2015/regulations/Competition%20Rules%20&%20Regs%202015.pdf