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Hi All,

No warning at all, just a very faint click and the three amigos came on.

Pedal almost to the floor .....

Hose failure between pump and ABS modulator but the pump had the good sense not to keep running and didn't spray fluid from the leaking hose over the exhaust manifold.

New hose and all OK now.

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Ouch! That's a new one. On both mine it's a stainless braided hose and they don't usually fail.

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Yikes - that sounds a bit worrying!

Glad everyone (including the RR) is ok, and it was a simple fix!

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Yes, it could have been quite serious ...... the same pipe failed on a previous P38 and sprayed brake fluid over the exhaust manifold ..... I must be lucky!

The pipes were not braided in either case ......

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Mine aren't braided either... might be something worth looking into replacing as part of a preventative maintenance thing then....

Do you think that because your P38's used to be out in a hot climate all the time, that may have had a bit of an effect on things aswell? I wonder if it could be something more prone to vehicles that have predominantly lived in a city - as the brakes get used a lot more than vehicles that have spent their lives cruising the motorways...

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I wouldn't have thought how a car is used would have any affect on the hose from the pump, it's going to have full pressure in it all the time whether the brakes are being used a lot or not. Ambient temperature may well have an affect though.

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Damn- something else to worry about. Mine's lived in Spain, for quite a while judging from the complete lack of rot and the sun trashed interior. Guess I'll replace mine at the same time I do the BMR kit. Going to have to bleed the brakes anyway and give it a complete fluid flush.

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Gilbertd wrote:

I wouldn't have thought how a car is used would have any affect on the hose from the pump, it's going to have full pressure in it all the time whether the brakes are being used a lot or not. Ambient temperature may well have an affect though.

True - I just wondered if the pressure cycling from the brakes being used more often around town would have had an effect.. I know that the standard rubber brake lines can bulge out over the years - figured since it's rubber hose on the main side it might have done the same.

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Gilbertd wrote:

Ouch! That's a new one. On both mine it's a stainless braided hose and they don't usually fail.

Where did you obtain these, please? Pre-made or did you go to a local hose supplier?

I ask because I'm slowly collecting brake parts. I've got the modulator modification and some braided calliper hoses have just landed, so when it's all in bits, I may as well throw on the hose in question. I could try to get one done here but if someone does them ready made, I may have a bit more faith.

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SpiggyTopes wrote:

Hi All,

No warning at all, just a very faint click and the three amigos came on.

Pedal almost to the floor .....

Hose failure between pump and ABS modulator but the pump had the good sense not to keep running and didn't spray fluid from the leaking hose over the exhaust manifold.

New hose and all OK now.

Spiggy, good to hear there were no other consequences.

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GeorgeB wrote:

Where did you obtain these, please? Pre-made or did you go to a local hose supplier?

I didn't, they were on the cars when I got them. I assumed they were standard as both have them (a '97 4.0SE and a 98 4.0 police special)

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Salamat, George!

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The banjo-bolts are the same as for the late Classic which had a braided hose. If it is long enough I should try one of those.
Tony.

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Just watch out for the shape ..... the genuine one is not a straight hose but appears to be specifically formed for the job.