Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New year all from a foggy and wet Cumbrian Hillside.
And thanks all for all your constructive observations, assistance and advice (in particular Richard AKA Gilbertd) to help keeping my P38 ticking over nicely !

I'm looking for a full set of lightstone carpets , if it's being broken and there in decent condition ?

Congratulations Richard ! I don't know how you find time to fit all these projects in !! Les.

Oh Cripes..Richard, could you drop round when you go over to see your in-laws ? Haha !

Hi Leolito, Have you given anymore thought to finding and selling your lightstone carpets ?.

leolito wrote:

That is correct. Also adding that breakers are seldom car conoisseurs (even the famed ones), for them a car to break is money to be made, thus I have often seen stuff thrown inside ruining carpets, seats, plastics, and the like.
They focus on the quick money and carpets are stuff for the very special people ... pity.

If you talk 'beige', I believe you are referring to the Lightstone. It took me long time to find decent ones, so nice I never even put them on, and probably never will (might think to sell, in that case will tell you, first I need to find them!).

You could put yours here, not that I have seen lots of action in this topic (I had high expectations, perhaps)
https://rangerovers.pub/topic/1983-the-place-for-sales-swaps-wants-offers-gifts-and-giveaways

Thanks Richard, I'll add those areas and treat accordingly.

Gilbertd wrote:

A friend who restored a Classic had that treated with Lanoguard but a Classic needs something as they do rot away nicely. The P38 doesn't really suffer from rust, the only ones I have seen that have been rusty are ones that have lived by the sea and almost certainly been used for launching a boat into sea water. When launching my boat I reverse down a slipway until I hear the exhausts are under water and know I've gone far enough for it to float off easily. That is in fresh water though so not a problem.

Yes, Thanks Richard & Harv, I'm aware P38's don't particularly suffer from rusting, but mine does have a lot of just surface rust and thought I would treat if only to get it back looking neat, tidy and future proof. I believe some bodywork cavities can show sign of rust bubbling through and treated with drilling, spraying and capping off ? , are any of you aware ? which and where ?

Hi All, I did mention this topic in another posting, but thought I would flag up as a stand-alone topic.
I'm looking at treating all the underside with Jenolite rust converter and then Lanoguard to finish. I'm not sure if these are available beyond UK shores, but sure there will be similar. I'm really looking for those of you who have used these treatments, pro's & cons please..as against the more regular Waxoyl rust and seal treatment. Thanks, Les.

Thanks Richard, that's all great info..I'll start with the top hose/reservoir test ! and report back. FYI I replaced the plugs and couldn't see any real variation in the condition between them all ?

The car has overheated and broke down when the heater matrix o rings burst and the previous owner failed to spot the temp gauge on red ! . He's a good friend but an impatient clot ...since then (post o ring repair) the engine loses coolant about 1 pint per 30 miles..and steam coming from exhaust in cool climate. No cream in oil, It also back pressures at the expansion tank when you attempt to remove the cap after a few miles..I'm told it might also be slipped liner/s ?. It's had a sniff test and gases show in the coolant.

One of the next jobs is to get the hurricane alloys re-finished. Whilst it's on the ramp with the wheels off, I going to steam clean the underside, and then set about treating it with Jenolite ? and then Lanoguard ? to finish. Has anybody had any experience with these treatments? (recommended by the Kentdale Land Rover chap) . Forgive my input and multi questions chaps ..but clearly, you have many years of experience that's invaluable to me..Thanks

Yes Thanks, agreed Karlos1..I'm getting that way with vehicles now I've all but retired, plus the need to keep myself occupied and the fact that I can't slip the cost of repairs through the company accounts anymore !!
I'm afraid Head gaskets and other major mechanicals previously highlighted are way beyond my skill sets.
I do have an acute attention to detail and practical renovation skills, which will allow me to undertake most of the cabin and exterior tweaks. Richard..FYI, I quickly removed the running boards and headlamp grills as soon as I took ownership !! Less is more !.. I've mounted some chrome caps into where the grill fastenings were for now.

Case in point on refurb costs.. it's just cost me £2450 to fit new bushes/steering damper, eas bags, HT leads/plugs, air con new condenser, and service, replaced plenum foam.
NB: It still needs two new head gaskets, I'm told..Any idea how much that will cost me? plus any advice pointers on who best to undertake ideally in the North West (UK!). I want the vehicle mechanically mint before deciding to sell or keep it, if a keeper its on to cosmetics then! I like the idea Richard of doubling up for it to be a daily driver ..It's done 59200 Full dealer ship miles, so sack the idea of a refurbed defender, if I can get her up to a showroom standard. Plus there's a chap who works at Kentdale Land Rover who's offered to service and repair it for me (but not the head gaskets) at home. So might be the way forward, which keeps the miles of the Porsche AND keep my sensible other half happier ?

"Must have been travelling quickly to go back in time, The L322 didn't come out until 2002"......

Yes...I was thinking about that last night...I'm puzzled myself ...it wasn't a P38, !
I've tried to contact the three lads that came with me ...see if they remember what it was...Forgive me I must have had 60 plus company cars plus second private 4x4's since then, I knew the L322 didn't come out until after the P38 runoff, so I'm baffled now what we drove to Barcelona in ! Ps the L322 was always breaking down , mainly electrical ,never like it...went back to sport cars soon after. Perhaps i had the benefit of a company car And a 4x4 and think that's where the difference lay..in so much I didn't have to travel far in the 4x4 ..
And yes. Thorst...the cost of buying is always different to cost of ownership ..thankfully we close our financially sensible eyes to refurbishing ,repairing and maintaining classic cars and boats...to keep such things on the road and water..such is our passion , clearly demonstrated on forums like this. ! On the subject, please take a look at https://www.nwd4x4.co.uk/ thinking of selling my P38 and going back to a defender for my current needs ,,,these refurbs are great and seem good value, don't tell my wife !

You've certainly maxed out the benefits of owning and using a P38 Richard !..My proper" 4x4's only get to use their skills these days, negotiating snowy impassable roads and pulling tourists out of the same in our Cumbrian Winters. I think Subaru was clever by ditching the heavy-duty drive trains, high ride heights, and low ratio boxes, to pioneer 4x4s reasonably nimble, affordable, with fewer, needless moving parts, as daily drivers for the country/urban brigade, with other manufacturers following suit sometime later.

Thanks All, for your views and logic , especially RichardD , your always guaranteed a very sensible and comprehensive approach to posts ..Thanks, Dick...For my part..I've only ever bought "proper" (low ratio boxes) 4x4s to use as tools eg, game fishing/shooting/towing boats etc, not daily drivers and certainly not long-distance commuting etc.vis defenders, discoveries and P38's, albeit in more luxurious surroundings, although hypocritically I did travel once from Manchester to Barcelona in my brand spanking L322 company car in 1999, to watch the Uefa Champions League final, when I couldn't get a flight ..thank god I could claim on company expenses !. I Understand now that LPG can and does make them daily commuters etc for some. especially if the previous owner has gone to the expense of installation which clearly does not reflect in residual sell-on values and Richard's not a sell-on logic in that respect. Thanks All.

Thanks Mad-As...FYI..I'm in the UK (North West).. be good to hear from others , before I dismiss the idea...FYI, I am a "factory spec" man and has improved attraction and £ returns on classic cars I've refurbished..

Forgive my ignorance , if indeed it is ignorance, but why do folk convert P38 fuel systems from petrol to LPG ?...Is it me ? surely the cost of installation must take a lot of fuel saving miles to recover the outlay ? These animals are not daily long distance drivers are they ? they where never built for that, where they ? . FYI, I converted a Mastercraft V8 boat to LPG and quickly realised I'd followed a trend rather than a commercialy sensible investment and limited my refueling points ..plus it devalued the vessel on sale as it limited it's market attraction. Richard/GilbertD , you clearly are a convert" and an experienced commercially sensible soul, who's opinion I value..so if you was me, would you convert my beast ? plus switching back to petrol when needed puzzles me.... Am I missing something ?

Yes thanks Pete..I'm going open mine up shortly ! Be interesting to see what gen ..given she's a 2002 run off spec