OK, quick post - pics to follow later..

anyone else who has terrafirma shocks - the standard ones TF125/126 had any issues getting the rubber bushing cups in? I'm putting them in as per the diagram, but the thread doesn't seem long enough, or I can't get enough compression on the rubber bushings to begin with to get them started.

If I take one of the inner cups (that basically go inside the P38 cups on the lower shock mount) then I can get the outer cup on and the nut on. put that one back, and I can't as the rubber bushing decompresses...

For the moment I'm going to keep it so that the top has both TF metal cups and the bottom doesn't have the inner one. If they'd made the thread on the lower mount 5mm longer it wouldn't be an issue...

BTW this is on the rear - I haven't looked at the joyousness of the front yet

I encountered this conundrum when buying my TF +2 shocks.

The P38 has the cups on the axle "atleast" mine has..

TF supply all the cups, 2 of which aren't needed..

The shocker has to have a cup against its body, the rubber bush sits in the axle cup WITHOUT the TF washer and the shocker thread has a bush over it and the cup goes on last with the nut securing the whole party together

Note the "cups" welded to the axle..

Also it is worth noting the "stock" shockers have washers that can sieze in the cups on the axle causing a chain reaction of further pain..

Flick them out with a screw driver!!

Thanks - I have replaced the shocks on mine before with standard ones, so have been through that before.

I ended up doing mine with the pair of washers on the top of the axle and just the one on the bottom by the nut. If I can be bothered, then I'll undo them all again and remove the second cup from the top of the axle side.

I just find it amusing that the diagram and instructions that come with each shock show and mention to put them all in... especially as it's sold as a P38 shock... and the cups on the shocks actually fit inside the P38 ones as if they were supposed to be there... still, it's all done now. New shocks all round, and new air springs up front. Think I need to calibrate the EAS, as the compressor still runs more than it should... but that's a task for another day.

Pics to follow once I've got them off my phone onto my server.

Good work Marty..

Took me the best part of a day because of seized bolts!

The TF instructions are rarely accurate, i put a set on my D2 and the instructions they came with didn't even correspond with the shock in the box!!