Morning.

I'll be attempting to tackle a small air leak today on the reservoir pipe from the block. I reckon it's a fudged o-ring and or collet.

I've got no gear to depressurize so the word on the street is stick it on access and just pull the pipe out (carefully of course)

After I'm done, I'm told to start the engine and leave the door open for 5 mins or so then shut door and suspension should be cock on with no EAS faults.

This all sound About right?

Got a mate at a local garage that have the software to put it right should it all go Pete Tong

Fingers crossed and goggles on.

You can get the software free from rsw solutions , then either buy or make a lead, you can just pull the pipe, but you will get pressure from the pipe, it could be o rings gone ( there's 2) or a bad pipe, I always take a small slither off the end and chamfer with a pencil sharpener, a scratch on the pipe can cause as many problems as a bad o ring. As you've said, once done, fire it up with door open, if your compressor is good it will lift after 4-5 minutes,,

no10chris wrote:

once done, fire it up with door open, if your compressor is good it will lift after 4-5 minutes,,

But not until you close the door as leaving a door open inhibits any suspension movement.

A cable like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RANGE-ROVER-P38a-EAS-AIR-SUSPENSION-FAULT-CODE-RESET-DIAGNOSTIC-PC-TOOL-UK-/112207172412?hash=item1a2011933c:g:ISQAAOSw4GVYLX2f will do the job if you have a geriatric laptop with a serial port, otherwise one with a USB adapter like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P38a-EAS-AIR-SUSPENSION-FAULT-CODE-RESET-DIAGNOSTIC-CODE-READER-PC-TOOL-/282300279231?hash=item41ba6869bf:g:esMAAOSwItFYXFHG will either come with the software or a link to download it (or just download it from http://www.rswsolutions.com/media/rangerover_easunlock_suite_win32_10-20-08.zip).

Thanks fellas.

Jobs off for now as the doughnuts at Landrover only got me 1 O-ring despite telling me on the phone that they came in 2's. They knew what i was doing, so why would i only require 1 O-ring for a job that needs 2? idiots!

I've learned to not expect much from my local dealer.

I occasionally go in when I want something more quickly than I get it from the internet but never really had any joy. I can't blame them for not having readily available stock of everything for a 20 year old car but they sometimes tell me the part number I'm ask for doesn't exist and never has.

So then I go online and order it using the part number and wait for it to turn up.

The other week I wanted a key fob battery cover. The local dealer told me there was no separate part and never had been - I had to buy a whole new key. Ordered one online that turned up in a Genuine Land Rover parts bag.

They're like any dealer. "You'd like a new car, sir? Step this way!"
"oh, you'd like bits for a car that we don't even service? Go sit behind the pot plant until we're really bored - and stay away from the coffee machine"

Got both O-rings now so we're good to go.

One question i forgot to ask is, Do i have to take the eas block out of the housing, or can i just do it in situe? Didn't really want to disturb the other airlines.

Ta :-)

Leave it in. Once the car is down to access height, push the collet and pipe in, then while holding the collet in, pull the pipe out (you might need to wiggle it about a bit). Then just pull the collet out with long nosed pliers so you pull it out straight. RAVE says to remove the old O rings with a crochet hook (not something most of us have in the bottom of the toolbox) but a bit of bent copper wire does the job or anything else as long as it is softer than the valve block so you don't scratch the bore that the O ring sits in. A bit of Fairy liquid or vaseline on the O rings and pop them in followed by the collet. If you look at the air line you will probably see a slight groove where the old O rings were bearing on it, that will give a potential leak even with new O rings so trim a mm or so off the end and chamfer the end of the pipe with a pencil sharpener. More Fairy liquid on the end of the pipe and push it all the way into the hole. With no pressure there, it may try to come out again once pressure is behind it so push it fully in and then pull the collet out so it locks the pipe in, then start her up and let the pressure build. Check if you still have a leak with a squirt of Fairy liquid and water.

From the above you will realise that EAS work involves you to have children (to supply the pencil sharpener) and a missus who is into craft type things and housework (to supply the crochet hook and Fairy liquid).

Gilbertd wrote:

Leave it in. Once the car is down to access height, push the collet and pipe in, then while holding the collet in, pull the pipe out (you might need to wiggle it about a bit). Then just pull the collet out with long nosed pliers so you pull it out straight. RAVE says to remove the old O rings with a crochet hook (not something most of us have in the bottom of the toolbox) but a bit of bent copper wire does the job or anything else as long as it is softer than the valve block so you don't scratch the bore that the O ring sits in. A bit of Fairy liquid or vaseline on the O rings and pop them in followed by the collet. If you look at the air line you will probably see a slight groove where the old O rings were bearing on it, that will give a potential leak even with new O rings so trim a mm or so off the end and chamfer the end of the pipe with a pencil sharpener. More Fairy liquid on the end of the pipe and push it all the way into the hole. With no pressure there, it may try to come out again once pressure is behind it so push it fully in and then pull the collet out so it locks the pipe in, then start her up and let the pressure build. Check if you still have a leak with a squirt of Fairy liquid and water.

From the above you will realise that EAS work involves you to have children (to supply the pencil sharpener) and a missus who is into craft type things and housework (to supply the crochet hook and Fairy liquid).

Nice one. All sounds good.

Just been down the town and purchased a crotchet hook whilst waiting for a reply. £1.35 from Boyes. lol. Got 2 kids but the pencil sharpener always seems to be missing when it's homework time. I don't have any fairy so it will have to be Asda's Mulled fruits washing up liquid.

Lets see what happens!!!!

Well, at least it will smell nice ............... Mulled Fruits, hmmmm

Mission complete!

The crotchet hook was a worthwhile investment as the old o rings did need a bit of popping out..

The new o-rings are, in my opinion, ever so slightly bigger. And i mean ever so slightly, but this might make a difference from what was in there.. Pipe did indeed have 2 indents on it where the old o-rings were so i cut a couple of mm from the end with a new stanley blade and gently deburred the end with a bit of 320 sand paper. I found the pencil sharpener was gonna chop into the pipe too much so i didn't use it. Perhps that was just the pencil sharpener i was using though.

Job was dead easy for anyone else that looks this topic up. Took 20 mins all-in including re-pressurizing.

Hope that's problem solved. Either way it was leaking from there so it wanted doing.

well i'll be darned!

What size is the O Ring and collect for the top of the air dryer? 8mm??

Leaking like a good un!

Nevermind. Just chopped the end of the pipe,re-seated it and that's nailed it.

That's all that is needed quite often. As you found you get a groove in the pipe where the O rings bear on it and they start to leak, slicing a bit off the end and the leak goes away. However, normally the fact the cars drops to it's knees whenever it's left gets ignored, the pump has to work overtime so wears itself out, the owner gets quoted a stupid price to replace the pump so they end up putting springs on instead. All for the sake of 20 minutes with a Stanley knife......

Gilbertd wrote:

That's all that is needed quite often. As you found you get a groove in the pipe where the O rings bear on it and they start to leak, slicing a bit off the end and the leak goes away. However, normally the fact the cars drops to it's knees whenever it's left gets ignored, the pump has to work overtime so wears itself out, the owner gets quoted a stupid price to replace the pump so they end up putting springs on instead. All for the sake of 20 minutes with a Stanley knife......

Been parked up 5 hours and still standing on all fours. Think we've cracked it.

The guy was selling it mainly because of the "parasitic drain" and that will have put most off. T'was nothing but a mini eas leak waking up his BECM. Total repair cost £6.

LOL

Thanks Gilbertd for the advice.

Final stage of the fix, eas delay timer relay back in now. If i've done it all right, shouldn't be moving and draining battery no more.

Assuming it's parked somewhere reasonably flat. If it's on bumpy ground it will try to level the other 3 corners to match the lowest one.

Parked outside the house on flat road. The other car never had any bother so here's hoping this one will be fine now.

Confirmed fix!