Anyone else seen this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-Vogue-P38-Ascot-Edition-with-LPG/272743775017

An early car but looks very tidy and the faults all look stupidly simple.
Brakes, tied in with the ABS light on will be either pump or modulator, parking brake means it needs adjusting or was tested on a roller by an MoT tester not knowing what he was doing, a pair of wipers and a washer pump needed and the fact that the emissions show a lambda fail mean it was tested on petrol even though it's got an AEB LPG system fitted (from the switch, almost certainly a Leonardo like on mine, dead simple and cheap even if the lot needs replacing). Then it just needs a couple of ball joints.

If I didn't already have the SE, I'd be whacking a cheeky bidnapper bid on it myself as the auction will end when we're on the way home from Summer Camp (shame it doesn't end a bit sooner so it could be at summer camp, it'd all be sorted in a matter of minutes if everyone descended on it like vultures and did a job each). .

That is tidy!

There's also one on one of the FB groups, which is down Devon/Dorset way from memory - it was £1K but seen he's dropped it to £800...

It was running rough - had a few things replaced on it I think - again on LPG... my guess was that either it needed a pair of lambda sensors, TPS and cleaning of the IACV - along with a reset of the fuel trims and a recalibration of the LPG system...

Again, would be an easy one for someone with a Nanocom and a spare weekend... the rest of the vehicle looked straight and pretty clean. I'd have been interested myself if I didn't have the workshop full with the other 2!!

Oh dear, prepare for a tale of untold woe. Seems I've just bought it.......

As we discussed at Camp, you now have an invaluable nicely packaged box of spares to park on top of the SE in the drive.
Congratulations (I think- time will tell!)

Picked it up from Battersea last night in the pouring rain. I can confirm that the wiper blades were indeed split, the passenger and rear screen ones just had the rubber backing, the actual blade had fallen off long ago. As there was an advisory for a coolant leak, I topped it up before setting off with my daughter following me in mine. Got as far as the Edgeware Road and the temperature gauge shot up to the red. Stopped, let an awful lot of pressure out, refilled it, grabbed a few bits out of the boot of mine and told my daughter she may as well go home, I could always call the AA to pick me up if I can't get it back myself. With the Nano plugged in so I could see the temperature, carried on but as it was getting up to 110 degrees there was a filling station so pulled in there. Put some petrol in it as it didn't run well on gas (even though the gauge showed 3/4 full). Let more pressure out and refilled it again but as I was on a filling station forecourt rather than clogging up a main road through London, took a bit more time about it to make sure I got rid of all the air. For some reason I looked at the viscous fan and noticed the reason why it was running hot, there wasn't one! Fan and viscous coupling were missing. Figured that as long as I could get out of the traffic, once I got to the A1 I should be OK with the airflow through the radiator. So, with one more stop when it started to get hot I soon got clear of the traffic and the temperature came down, and down, and down until at 60 mph on the A1, the Nano was reporting a coolant temperature of 71 degrees! Methinks the thermostat has been gutted. When I stopped it gave me a chance to read the other faults. It has an SRS fault which is reported as driver airbag open circuit, it had an ABS fault which went away once I'd cleared it and is now working as it should, the HEVAC has the chequebook showing due to a duff passenger blend motor and the engine had no stored faults whatsoever.

So, what about the huge list of MoT failure points then? Well, as I'm working a late start, late finish today, I've had a couple of hours to play with it. £3.99 each has sorted the wipers, despite it failing on brake efficiency, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the brakes, it stops fine, the parking brake was obviously tested a wheel at a time on a roller as that is working perfectly too, the insecure drivers seat is caused by one front bolt being not there, no idea why it failed on emissions as it runs fine, the lambda sensor are both working and switching as they should but the vacuum pipe to the fuel pressure regulator was off at the inlet manifold, so that may have had something to do with it and I haven't been underneath to have a look at the ball joint rubbers or rusty brake hose ferrules yet but £25 from Avenger 4x4 has got it a viscous coupling and fan, EAS is also working perfectly and has a pump dated 2014. The gas system is a single point Leonardo with a separate 0-1V lambda sensor to drive it and that has obviously died as it runs stupidly rich on gas. The cruise control doesn't work, but the pipe to the brake switch had split and fallen off but even with that back on it still doesn't work. That may point to a problem with the rotary coupler which would also explain the SRS fault. Can't test the radio buttons as the original radio display lights up but doesn't show CODE, or anything else for that matter, so doesn't do anything. Oh yes, and the drivers door doesn't lock or operate the central locking but the other doors all lock and unlock on the fob so a bit of door latch rebuilding is called for.

Overall, it seems very tidy except for the drivers seat base which is split on the side and not much better on the top. From the stored memory settings on the drivers seats, I suspect it's been owned by a fat b*stard which would explain that. So I'm on the lookout for a light blue/grey leather drivers seat if anyone has one and doesn't mind splitting a set.

Sounds like it was also owned by someone who doesn't know about P38's!!

I've got a couple of grey seats in the workshop - I'm not 100% sure how good they are... but if you send me a picture of the one that's in there, I can have a look to make sure they are the same... even if the drivers base I have isn't great, the passenger one is probably OK and can be swapped over.

If the Lambda sensor is faulty and it's stinking rich on gas, then that also probably explains the MOT failure - but again, simple fix!

I think the grey ones are pretty good, although one might smell of barbeque a bit from last year ;)
I was very careful not to drip ketchup all over it...

Gilbert - that's a hell of a lot of motor for £620 and I'm sure you'll have it running like a sewing machine in a couple of months. Nice one :D

Couple of months? I expect to have it done by next week. For the mot it was tested on petrol and it runs fine on that, it's just ridiculously rich on gas. The only thing I was able to find was the disconnected fuel pressure vacuum pipe so no idea why it had failed on emissions.

Didn't the grey ones come out of my '95?
IIRC all the electrics worked, but leather on drivers was a bit shot. They were sun baked as the car spent a fair few years living in the Spanish sunshine.

Yeah, they are the ones from your '95 - if the drivers seat base is a bit past it, then the passenger seat base might be a candidate to swap for the drivers one.

Vehicle looks good overall, so once all the niggles are sorted out, should be able to make a bit on it when you go to sell it.

Here's what drivers looked like:

Now I've got into leathery stuff, that would be an easy repair- no obvious tears.
Rub it down, clean it, bit of leather filler, spray dye, seal- job done.

You starting a P38 museum Gilbert or just going to flip it?

Are you interested in a sorted One? 😀

Only if it comes at the same sort of price. No, this is going to be a sort out the problems, get it looking tidy and flip it (in fact, I've already got one potential buyer). That seat looks slightly worse than the passenger seat but a lot better than the drivers, I'll get a picture of it in daylight tomorrow (only just got in from work), it's bad, really bad. I wouldn't need any of the electrics, they all work fine (even the memories with both keys), just the actual seat base. That just bolts onto the framework with a bolt in each corner. A replacement seat cushion and a bit of leather clean and feed stuff should be enough. It's also got a droopy headlining though but Dina looked at it with glee, I think she enjoyed herself far too much last weekend.

Anyone got any info on the Ascot variant? It says it's an HSE on the V5 but it does seem to have every option going except for extra wood inside. It's even got a sunroof but I must admit I haven't even tried it yet as I've never had one with a sunroof before although the AC works too.

Someone has obviously been in the BeCM. Firmware version is 33 as it's quite an early car but passive immobilisation has been disabled but so has EKA, not sure what effect that has. In with the huge wad of papers that came with it there's a service booklet with 3 numbers written in it. There's a long number which I assume is the key barcode and the other two are 4 digit numbers so one will be the EKA and the other the radio code but I've no idea which is which. As the radio doesn't seem to work (there's a red LED with CODE next to it but that doesn't come on so I've no idea how that does whatever it should do) I can't see which is the radio code by trying them both and with EKA disabled in the BeCM, I don't fancy deliberately immobilising it just to see if I can make the EKA work. As the BeCM is locked the Nano won't tell me what the EKA is either.

I meant blueplastic 😀

Morat wrote:

I meant blueplastic 😀

??

Looking in my P38 'bible' there isn't actually a special edition called 'Ascot' in any of the model years.

I presume it's an HSE with maybe 'Ascot' coloured paint (can look up the paint code if you get it off the slam panel).

There was an Ascot edition Classic so I suspect that's where the badge came from.

Funnily enough I was watching that one as well, but I've had strict instructions to get other things around the house sorted before I'm allowed another play thing 🙁

I couldn't find any mention of an Ascot edition either. I was going to buy the P38 bible but Amazon want £60 for it! Paint is Altai Silver (code 567) but it has a blueish tinge to it and it looks more blue under a blue sky but much less so on a cloudy day. V5 says colour silver too.