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Joined: Apr 23 2019
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This guy (aka Lancashire Sports and Performance) was responsible for selling me my P38 a couple of years back off of Car and Classic. He claimed to be a "P38 specialist" but his inability to fault check basic things makes us look like Charles Spencer King ( ie he's either incompetent, or a liar). Apart from a load of cr** he spun me about the car, MOT etc, he also advertised it using fake pictures - when you're advertising a numbered limited edition that's a pretty dumb thing to do, right?
Anyway - this guy is so brazen he is now using the same set of pictures (ie the ones that were supposedly of my car, but weren't) to sell another 50th Range Rover. I guess he got kicked off car and classic and so has just set up an ebay account, feedback 1. I know we pub-folk aren't necessarily in the market for a second/ third P38 anyway, but just be warned, go in with your eyes wide open if you do ever get tempted to deal with him.

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Joined: Sep 02 2016
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Thanks for the heads up Rob: An /'nteresting' seller indeed.... Did a few DVLA Checks and his definitions of Pristine and Immaculate are 'generous' to say the least: The reg on this one does not even exist: "2000 Range Rover Autobiography 1 of 1 in Praire Rose" - and "Caveat Emptor" indeed !

(Also on 'Car and Classic' too)

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This one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-Vogue-SE-1-of-30-Rioja-Red-Tan-Leather-FSH-Collector-standard-P38/283691850470 is the oddest shade of Rioja Red I've ever seen, looks more like it's been dipped in Tomato soup!

This https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-RANGE-ROVER-RIOJA-RED-601-CAD-TOUCH-UP-PAINT-30ML-BODYSHOP-QUALITY/272976116874 is Rioja Red........

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Its also got some oddities going on with the listing - the plates are shown to be V reg, listing shows its a 1999 registered car, but the partial VRM shown is a 51 (2001) plate. I wouldn't even describe it as Red, it looks to be orange to me. Or as you say, Tomato Soup!.

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and wasn't the Vogue SE only made towards the end of production but it has the earlier dash with the cubby hole next to the clock rather than the nav unit which I thought was standard on all later cars?

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Report it to ebay, listing your concerns?

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Joined: Apr 23 2019
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I would if I could,but eBay's selling policy is hyper-narrow, and doesn't allow you to submit free text, it also doesn't seem to have a policy against fake/ misleading photos ie you can voice an objection, but can't explain why, which seems kind of pointless.

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Joined: Mar 22 2016
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Seems as though he likes his vogue se stickers, who ever picked that mix on the autobiography needs shooting 🤢🤮

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Way too many dodgy sellers and buyers on Ebay regardless of what's being bought/sold, would think Ebay would clamp down on them to restore some faith. Someone could make a similar but more vetted site and do well.

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Joined: Dec 22 2018
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It's strange how 2 of his P38s that sold on eBay for decent money less than 48hrs ago are listed again? Bidding up his own items???

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Or people have gone and had a look and told him to forget it?