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kultur wrote:

Winches, big tires, and lifts all serve a purpose when you actually offroad on trails like the Rubicon and Moab.

I've seen folk driving on those "offroad" trails, and they look like the farm tracks round here. I drive a bone stock P38 on far messier stuff than that on a daily basis.

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romanrob wrote:

Tnx for the vid Morat - that was pretty impressive. Kultur- fight xenophobia with xenophobia, that's what I say, you must really get wound up by Top Gear. 90%+ of these off-road mods are just for on-road posing. There are a handful of people, like your good self, that make use of the mods, but i don't think Gilbert D was referencing you - us lesser mortals just end up watching youtube off-road videos. Anyway the P38 is a poor choice of off-road vehicle, for as long as you have the terminals of every electronic system in the car lying on the floor.

Sorry I wasn't being clear, I didn't mean that British people don't offroad or like to insult people. I was trying to imply that it was a Gilbert thing, hence the "maybe its just you".

I happen to disagree, the P38 is quite the great off-road vehicle. Are there posers out there, sure, but the point is that mods like a winch, roof rack, big tires all serve a purpose for those that do go out in the bush and push the vehicle beyond its limits. Some of these things were talking about are factory Land Rover Accessories but i digress. How do you know the poser from the real? Does it really actually matter? Its not your cup of tea then keep your comments to yourself.

Lol, I knew this would ruffle some feathers. I love Top Gear, don't dish it out if you can't take it back ;)

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gordonjcp wrote:

kultur wrote:

Winches, big tires, and lifts all serve a purpose when you actually offroad on trails like the Rubicon and Moab.

I've seen folk driving on those "offroad" trails, and they look like the farm tracks round here. I drive a bone stock P38 on far messier stuff than that on a daily basis.

Your confusing mud tracks for trails mate. See video posted by Morat.

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StrangeRover wrote:

kultur wrote:

Gilbertd wrote:

Main thing with a P38 is that you can wash it, polish it and use it to go anywhere and it doesn't look out of place, even our Queen uses one! But you can still take it out and get it muddy, drag big trailers around the place, use it to uproot trees, climb mountains and, unless you damage the bodywork, all you need to do is give it another wash. Contrary to what many American owners seem to think, you don't need to fit it with big wheels and tyres, winches and lift the suspension, it's perfectly capable of going places where the driver chickens out long before the car has reached the limit.

O Gilbert, still spouting that xenophobic nonsense are we? I guess it must be a British thing to insult people for what they do with their money to their own cars, or maybe its just you.

Winches, big tires, and lifts all serve a purpose when you actually offroad on trails like the Rubicon and Moab. But I guess us Americans, Russians, Australians, New Zealanders and pretty much everyone else from around the world who doesn't consider driving down a gravel road offroading, don't know what we're doing.

I'll be sure to check in with ya Gilby, next time I want to modify my rangie to make it more capable off-road, since you know everything ;)

Before you get yer arse in a twist.

Let me remind ya that RR.net is full of people "mainly americans" that like to lift and add loads of offroad accessories to their motors..

Well it's their money, Gilbertd was saying that the P38 is more than capable in stock form..

Exactly, its their money and their car, you don't know what they do or dont do with it. All he had to say was, "it's a very capable vehicle in stock form" why insult fellow LR owners?

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kultur wrote:

Your confusing mud tracks for trails mate. See video posted by Morat.

I don't watch videos. The stuff I drive on is more kind of jaggy bits of mountain rather than mud trails.

If you mean the idiots that deliberately pick the worst route up something, I don't see the point in that. I drive offroad to get 500kg of tools and equipment and three or four people - including me - safely up a hill, get a day's work done, and get them all back down safely at the end of it.

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Kultur- I'm not sure what you though I was dishing out, but I think I was being pretty polite and trying to be inclusive.

I've done plenty of off-roading thanks - in an SIII/ Defender/ Camel DIsco - I happen to prefer a Series/ Defender as a base for off road mods - I personally have no time for lifts/ snorkels on a P38, but winches and off-road tires no problemo. Poor Leolito - you completely hijacked his welcome thread

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RomanRob - I was actually referring to Gilbert in regards to dishing out. You've been nothing but a reasonable gentlemen.

GordronJCP - You don't watch videos? Ok....lol....anyways that's precisely the notion I was dispelling, but it seems you'd rather be upset so there's really no point in talking with you.

Leolito - My bad mate.

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