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When I bought my 2.5 DSE Auto it had some history with it. It had two new Nexen rear tyres (255 55 18) at 114295 miles. They are still on the car at 141420 miles and have about 5.5mmof tread left. If they started out with 10mm, they have worn only 4.5mm in 27000 miles, which is 6000 miles per mm. At that rate they've still got 18000 miles in them! They are date-coded 2013 and were fitted in 2014 as a pair. So is 45000 miles about normal for rear tyres in average use on-road? By comparison, what might expect for front tyres?

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I fitted a set of Vredestein Quadrac to my car in December 2017 before driving to Latvia for New Year, mileage at that time was 344,940. New they had 8mm of tread. Now, 3 years and 67,625 miles later, they have between 2.5 and 3mm of tread left. Not bad for a 3 peaks marked all season tyre.

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I think it irrelevant about tyre wear as roads/driving style ect makes to many variables ---- unless it's same vehicle &driver trying out tyres ---- just my thought ---- I've got maxxis on vogue and general grabber on disco ---- both seem capable for my use

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I fitted a set of Vredestein Quadrac to my car in December 2017 before driving to Latvia for New Year, mileage at that time was 344,940. New they had 8mm of tread. Now, 3 years and 67,625 miles later, they have between 2.5 and 3mm of tread left. Not bad for a 3 peaks marked all season tyre.

That is over 12000 miles per millimetre! Do you rotate your tyres, including the spare, because the tyre wear if shared around 5 tyres would be 9600 per mm. It seems that P38s are not heavy users of tyres compared with other vehicles I've had. How would you describe your driving style?

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The previous owner of mine fitted a set of Nexen rodians in 2015 at 110k

20k miles later they are still like new tread wise, however the sidewalls are cracking like all hell..

So a new set of tyres is needed soon i'm eyeing up a set of BFG AT tyres, as the Nexans are near useless off the tarmac..

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I balance and rotate my tires every 10,000 km, a habit I have had for many years. It seems to work well in terms of maximizing tyre wear and life.

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Talking about tyres I'm glad that now tyres 10year old (manufacturing date) are illegal 🤗 why anyone would use/trust tyres that old amazes me

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I don't rotate them although I did swap front to rear a while ago after the fronts were starting to wear more on the inside edge so put them on the back and replaced the worn track rod end that had caused it. Spare is an 8 year old Maxxis on a steel wheel that has done about 40 miles from new, when a Michelin I had on previously decided to disintegrate, as I use it the same as I use petrol, something for emergency use only. My driving style is 75-85 mph cruising and don't slow down for roundabouts (even with a V8 up front, once you get up to speed you don't want to slow down as it takes too long to get 2+ tonnes back up to cruising speed again). Most of my long distance driving is done with a 3 tonne trailer on the back too.

I must admit I expected the Vredesteins to wear quite quickly as they are a soft compound tyre so they meet the 3 peaks requirements. Grip in the wet is superb and they are pretty good on snow too. I had to drive up to Estonia to find some to try them out when I'd first fitted them though. In the snow a couple of weeks ago I expected them to be a bit poor as they are now well worn but they still stuck well. I'll be getting another set shortly. If travel restrictions are lifted before April I'll need to have a minimum of 4mm of tread to drive in some European countries.

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Talking about tyres I'm glad that now tyres 10year old (manufacturing date) are illegal 🤗 why anyone would use/trust tyres that old amazes me

But people still complain when 20 year old air springs start to leak and they are made of exactly the same stuff.......

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Gilbertd wrote:

Symes wrote:

Talking about tyres I'm glad that now tyres 10year old (manufacturing date) are illegal 🤗 why anyone would use/trust tyres that old amazes me

But people still complain when 20 year old air springs start to leak and they are made of exactly the same stuff.......

That comment did make me laugh,, ive bought some cars where the bags are thread bare, and they expect them to work,, funnily enough when I bought the dse a while back, left rear was more material than rubber, but to get it off the lorry I rebooted the eas and it lifted

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I hate having to buy new tyres. Why can't we have solid rubber tyres, like they used to have, and that would save me buying any new tyres. I would like to have a design that lets me buy some new tyres when I am 17 anf not have to buy any more until I am 70. A sort of life-long tyre !!!

I hate rubber tyres. I don't want to put them on my cars but the policeman says that I have to use them. Bollo, bollo, bollo.

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you couldn't buy 1 set of tyres age 17 and have them till you're 70 ---- because you would have to keep the vehicle you had at 17 -:------ and it wouldn't be a P38 due to insurance

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Ah-ha, that's a good point. But I could still be driving my old Ford Anglia 105E into which I fitted an early Lotus 1600cc twin cam engine. It would be looking very modern today. I mean, compare a 105E to a Tesla X and, obviously, the 105E would be better all around !!!! And still have a set of solid rubber tyres as fitted to earlier Fords. Class all around 😂

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My 1962 ford consul 375 probably be better on solid tyres

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But I could still be driving my old Ford Anglia 105E into which I fitted an early Lotus 1600cc twin cam engine.

You can relive your youth, if you have the money......

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1966-ford-anglia-1200-super-pg22vg

I had a 375 too. But wouldn't want to go back to one.

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if you had solid tires you would defiantly fix the eas and not go for coils . the ride would be atrocious . fork lifts have an injected sold rubber Tyre if you would like to be the our test dummy, but they still wear out and are outrageously difficult to change 😃
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Gilbertd wrote:

Pierre3 wrote:

But I could still be driving my old Ford Anglia 105E into which I fitted an early Lotus 1600cc twin cam engine.

You can relive your youth, if you have the money......

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/auctions/1966-ford-anglia-1200-super-pg22vg

I had a 375 too. But wouldn't want to go back to one.

Mine lowered and metal flake paint custom made tuck n roll interior I'd never get rid of it --- keeper

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What's wrong with the ride of a forklift ??? I have driven plenty of Nissan ones and I have always found that the ride is very comfortable. I wouldn't mind doing a holiday run to Spain on one. The open windscreen is the only downside as flies get in your mouth and up your nose when doing 17 mph on the motorway 😁

I had a 1961'ish Zephyr back in 1968 which was pretty good, although I didn't keep it that long. I traded it for a Mk 1 3.4 Jaguar.

If you notice, 1700's horse-drawn carriages have solid rubber tyres and they are still good. I don't see why the MOT inspector should fail them [unless he is Inspector Blake, "Blakey" from "On the buses"] as I'm sure that the tyres would be in perfect condition. Probably before Mr Michelin though !!

I used to drive artics on the continent during the 60's, and one thing that was a prize to get hold of was a Michelin Man that lit up and would normally be fitted on the tractor roof. A friend of mine who had a Scania 141 V8 tractor didn't have one, and somebody asked him " Ger, why haven't you got a Michelin Man on your roof rack, on the tractor". His reply -"There isn't one brave enough".

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