LOL.

Hmm.

I seem to read a lot of the influx of these new fangled vehicles that are powered by magical electrical pixies that come 'oot of a plug 'innit! ;)

Now, my Old P38 will take, by my financial estimate and general dafuq calendar, roughly 8yrs to get to pucker condition.

I want to do some travelling with her once i'm done, will all these new emissions laws cause any issues regarding this, what will happen to these fangled stations that produce that magical go Juice, petrol?

She'll be on LPG and petrol obvs ;)

I've always thought about hitching up a nice tin tent and travelling across Europe. France - Germany - Poland - etc. and of course everywhere as is possible in the Uk.

Now I know ya'll can't predict the future, but is it feasible that these old petrol/LPG machines will still be going in the future?!

And a nice post on how electrickery is crap would be nice.

Anywhoo..

I pick up the spanner and screwdriver and head towards my 38a and can't help but think, whats the point if i'll never drive it..

Anyway

I'm rambling..

Here's a nice P38

It's mine BTW ;)

Any words of wisdom for an profoundly odd 18yr old..

Henry.

I think old classics will always be on the road, it’s a cult in reality, there’s cars over 100yrs old that still adorn our roads ( London to Brighton )
Of course you could spend the next 8 years fitting as many batteries as you can find and hide in your p38 and a couple of motors and join the green crew, but I doubt if it will sound as nice running on batteries,
I always take the piss out of my neighbour with his milk float ( as I call it ) m series bmw, the bloody thing has nearly run me over twice as I don’t hear the bugger coming , lol

I'm sure petrol will still be available in 8 years time, but availability will fall pretty sharply once production switches to electric vehicles because the motor trade will want everyone to buy new cars.
Although LPG forecourts are becoming a little tricky to find since BP stopped stocking LPG, it'll still be available to those with a bit of ingenuity because it is used for things like domestic heating and cooking. Running off an orange cylinder might not be legal or convenient but I'm sure it'd be possible to rig up some form of refueling system in extremis.
Then we need Simon to crack the issue of starting a cold multipoint system on LPG!

Morat wrote:

Then we need Simon to crack the issue of starting a cold multipoint system on LPG!

Countries that have properly cold winters (Canada etc) have block heaters that warm up the engine before you start it. They have a mains power cord hanging out of the grill/bonnet and they just plug it in. I imagine we could rig up something like that but it would have to be plugged in to the mains to work or else it would likely drain the battery.

Not much help if you don't have a driveway and/or garage and have to park in the street, sometimes several houses away from your own house - but then this is the same issue people will have if they want us all to drive plug in electric cars!

E10 is a new "petrol" they'll be bringing out in 2020..

Apparently it's bio-ethanol fuel..

so long as its flammable lol

Not all cars can run on that though. New cars from 2011 onwards are supposed to be compatible but older than that there's no guarantee. Cars older than 2002 are advised not to use it at all:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/what-is-e10-fuel-and-how-could-it-affect-you/

I'm not sure how accurate the RAC info is but I follow a few YouTubers that modify cars and run ethanol based fuel and have to modify their cars to suit. They install flex fuel sensors and have to tune the ECU run correctly on it. The ECU's have different tunes for the different fuel and the flex fuel sensor allows the ECU to determine which tune to use. I'm not sure about things like modifying rubber and plastic seals to accommodate it though - they tend to run more modern cars than our P38's.

I'm sure it would work with some modifications!!

damn these new electrical pixie cars!!

I'm sure we could make a P38 run on anything!! lol

Worst case scenario you can attach a piebald pony to the front of your P38 and off you go.....
I put electric cars, their owners and proponents of same said objects, in a basket that also contains those folk who singularly or collectively drink Starbucks, support the flat earth theory, believe in flying saucers or think that Namibia will be a world power in the next 15 years. Make of that as you will.
I’d imagine that driving an electric car would be similar to having sex with a condom. Sure it’s safe and you are going through the motions but there’s no risk and no reward. It’s just not the same....
My feeling on the P38s I own is summed up by a Charlotte Heston quote....
“Out of my cold dead hand”

A pony? Have you seen the emissions on those things? EARTH MURDERER!!!!!!
:D

StrangeRover wrote:

E10 is a new "petrol" they'll be bringing out in 2020..

Apparently it's bio-ethanol fuel..

Petrol has had bio-ethanol added in small quantities for some time. In France the only 'proper' petrol you can buy is the 98 Octane stuff, the 95 Octane is now E85, with 15% ethanol. It eats some types of the materials used for fuel hoses and seals on earlier cars so worst case you'd need to replace any flexi hoses and seals.