The LPG filler on the Vogue SE we've just fitted the new engine too is tucked in the behind the fuel filler cap. It's very neat.
I actually hate this one as it's a big hole in the rear quarter. I'd rather it was under the bumper to be honest.
David.
I was thinking the opposite, shame the LPG filler is where it is. Mine is mounted where the second towbar electrical plug would go if I had twin electrics, convenient to get to and I can fill up from either side of the pump.
As an occasional LPG installer with a sense of aesthetic touch and taste, and professional upbringing, I feel compelled to say that whoever butchered that panel to do that, should not be let anywhere near a tool again - never.
Just move 15cm from that unnecessary hole and it was possible to put the filler right by the fuel filler, covered by the flap, nice neat and totally professional job .... and the amount of effort and cost to do it was irrelevant compared to that thing in the middle of the rear panel. Pity.
It's such a shame they've cut the bodywork. Especially seeing as it was done when the car was 3 years old and still had a significant value to it but when you buy the car at 15 years old there's not much you can do about it unfortunately.
The other Vogue SE we have has it nicely hidden behind the fuel filler flap and it's much, much neater. When we converted our last P38 ourselves we fitted it where the additional towing socket would be also. I've only ever regretted putting it there once when I had to unhitch the trailer to get the LPG filler to fit.
How are the tyres David?
My old bus needs a set of good tyres..
Any good?
I'm very impressed with them. They're quiet, drive nicely and do what they need to do.
It's been a week from hell since I returned from my break thanks to work but I'll do a decent post on them when I get 5 minutes.
David.
Good to know a set of tyres that are all those things!
Gotta get a set..
The tyres that were on this one prior were FullRun or something like that. Whatever it was on when I got it.
The Michelins are much, much quieter. They look good on the car too. Daft as it sounds, I like the design on the side wall lol.
David.
How are the 2 Vogues doing.
I noted above you have big valve heads and a beefier cam, how do you think it compares to a stock Thor 4.6?
I've been thinking of doing some work on mine, and am weighing up options of whether to rebuild a stock motor or go for something slightly pokier!
One of them is behaving perfectly, thankfully...
The other one, the one that had the new engine is back in the workshop as the radiator which was brand new developed a bad leak from the middle of the core. We’ve got a new radiator to go in it and I’m going to reinstate the LPG now that it’s just about finished it’s running in process too.
The new engine in the VSE has a torquemax camshaft, bigger valves and gas flowed heads according to the specs we ordered from V8 Developments. When sitting on the motorway at 60-65 and you press the accelerator it does pull better then the standard car. There’s quite a difference. How much of that is down to the modifications I don’t know as it’s impossible to say how worn the camshaft is without stripping it.
I’m tempted to fling a camshaft into the other car and see if it makes a big difference but there’s a lad on the Facebook Group who has Supercharged his which has got me thinking... It’s probably not wise, but life’s a bit boring if you only do what’s wise.
David.
Florent in France (you must know him as 996Turbo) told me his close to 400hp S/C is nothing to brag about in terms of performance improvement ... nevertheless I love forced induction and I would be delighted to plan such mod. Wise? If I was wise would have steered away from British cars and Italian motorcycles ... :-)))
Dave I keep tabs on your ideas lol
Looks about right if it is as good as the ad says.
There's a couple more in the Car and Classic auction.
How about the one below it for £50k
some colors are just not nice.
Any more progress to share David?
I've been pondering the idea of a newer Range Rover a lot recently. I used to have a 4.2 Supercharged L322 and should never have sold it if the truth be told.
Last summer/autumn I did a lot of miles in our 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography and thoroughly enjoyed being behind the wheel. The refinement, throttle response and power for a Diesel in that car when coupled with the 8 speed ZF is nothing short of incredible. Couple with the more precise rack and pinion steering it just makes it much more car like to drive.
One of the other cars in my fleet is a 2014 Jaguar XFR with the 5.0 Supercharged V8 in it. It got me thinking last night that a 5.0 Supercharged L322 would be a lovely car to own so I've been scouring all of the usual websites.
If I'm going to take the plunge then it would mean one of the Vogue SE's would be looking for a new home. Common sense says there is no reason whatsoever to sell the one that's just had the new engine fitted to it which means that BX02 would be looking for a new keeper.
Watch this space!
David.
I've driven a few L322's the 4.4 TDV8 is a great motor when coupled with that 8spd box, the 5.0 V8 in all honesty isn't that quick, might of been because the 4.4 had a remap and with around 600lb-ft under the right foot compared to around 460lb-ft it was additive to just float past slower cars without really revving it.
The supercharged on the other hand needed to be revved out to get the performance, not saying that is a bad thing but the 8mpg wasn't fun compared to the 25+ the diesel would get lol
As for 0-60 performance the 5.0 can do 6secs to 60 and the 4.4 is 7.5 with a proper map you can get that down into the low 6 secs if you want more straight line power the 4.4 would roast all 4 tyres if the throttle was matted lol
H
We’ve had a 2012 Autobiography in the family since it was new. It’s now covered a total of 23.5k miles lol.
It’s not all about the speed, I just love how much smoother the petrol is. The 4.4 diesel is wonderful but you still get that very front low frequency diesel vibration that you don’t get from a petrol. It’s feint, very feint to the point my wife doesn’t even notice it but when sitting at traffic lights you know it’s idling whereas the XFR is inaudible at idle at the lights and is so smooth you can’t tell it’s running.
There’s not much that’ll touch the XFR for performance either so chasing speed is pointless now I’ve got that. 0-60 in 4.7 seconds which isn’t great but the 50-70 midrange is 1.5 seconds.
With all of the hatred for Diesels these days, I’m not sure I want another one either to be honest. The most reliable engine in the L322 has been the 4.2 Supercharged as the 5.0’s can suffer timing chain tensioner wear but there’s not many decent 4.2’s for sale these days.
David.
Yep the 4.2 is smoother I wouldn't mind one, far better in terms of strength than its bigger 5.0 cousin
Maybe try strapping a supercharger to your P38, JE engineering kits come up on ebay occasionally lol