Thanks for adding me. I'm retired and will be working on the RR myself. It's done 141K miles and is running well. It starts instantly on all 6, even when it is freezing outside, which must be a good sign. Hot starting can be just a little hesitant. I'm not much good on electronics and have nothing for diagnostics. So far, I've replaced the heater plugs, a rear light and the pollen filters and I've been trying to sort out an ABS issue. No doubt I'll be asking for advice quite frequently. If I can contribute anything, I will. Gilbertd has been helping me in another place and suggested I join here.
Welcome to the forum.
I myself have been retired for 18 years now and my p38 is a "forever" car.
You will find the enthusiasm for the p38 on here is infectious. It is an easy and cheap car to work on actually.
Hi and welcome as dave3d said about his P38 being a forever car ---- they are ---- forever something to do 😁 seriously though not as bad as magazine articles would have you believe ---- The help on here is amazing and as you will find out ----- parts are quite cheap/easy to get 🤗
Another welcome, from Manila.
I've run mine for 7 years now with no (apart from self-inflicted) major issues.
Wouldn't be without it.
Welcome Jeremy :)
I don't know if my P38 is a forever car but I've thoroughly enjoyed it so far!
I think mines probably a forever car. The first year and a half I owned it, it had a lot of issues. The past two years it’s been pretty much flawless. It’s the best driving vehicle on and off road that I’ve ever had (and I’ve been driving 45 years now).
Harv what took you so long 😁 P38 diesel or V8 are great on / off road --- won't be long before the value goes up as now P38 becoming reviewed by land rover mags and classic mags too --- enjoy 🤗
My daughter reckons they'll bury me in mine when the time comes.......
It didn’t take me so long to go for LR, I’ve had my 2A for 26 years. It’s the newer LR’s that took me a while. I think I bought all 3 LR’s when they were pretty well bottomed out price wise. The 2A is worth a lot more now, and Disco’s are definitely going up in value. It would be nice to see the P38 go up too, but it doesn’t really matter to me, unless I ever want to sell it, which I have no intention of doing.
I think it is a forever car. You will need to keep it forever nobody will want it and if you put how much it costs you need to run it forever to depreciate it 😆
On the other hand, it is so hands' on and "proper" land rover it is impossible not to keep it.
I think is the ultimate Range Rover, and possibly one of the most balanced Land Rover cars ever made (up there with the late RRC, Disco I and II, and late Defender if you are up for suffering eh eh)
Thanks for the welcome! Technically it is my wife's car as it replaced her car. However, she broke her wrist 6 weeks ago and won't be driving for quite a while yet. If she can't get on with it I may have to get her something else and sell one of my other cars, because I don't want to let the P38 go. Part of the rationale for it is that we are doing a local move soon and it will be our removal vehicle, with a trailer at times. One thing that is good is that the more I improve it, the more it will be worth and no depreciation! I do think that the P38 was the best Range Rover, all things considered.
I use my vogue daily for work etc I have also got--- 1962 ford consul 375 -1965 Rover P6(buick300ci V8) -- 1997 discovery 1 300tdi manual
The vogue is a 1999 and 1 of 26 in Oxford blue ---Ive got a 98 4.6hse I'm doing as pick up ( still figuring out step side bed)
When finished that's my forever car 🤗
Been dailying my '96 DSE for nearly four years now and put 40K on her. The slow start when hot is common and put down to stretched timing chains. Stretched chains doesn't seem to effect normal performance. I looked into replacing mine but the bill for all the parts is quite big, plus whatever else you disturb and the special timing tools you require. In the end I fitted a hot-start module that basically gives a false signal to the ECU when starting to say the engine is cold so that it energises the glow plugs. Starts fine now.
If your pump starts to leak by the way don't panic straight away, I managed to reseal mine without removing it (and so losing the timing). Wish I'd known how to do it when I had my 5 series BMW Tourer with the same engine.
Smiler wrote:
Been dailying my '96 DSE for nearly four years now and put 40K on her. The slow start when hot is common and put down to stretched timing chains. Stretched chains doesn't seem to effect normal performance. I looked into replacing mine but the bill for all the parts is quite big, plus whatever else you disturb and the special timing tools you require. In the end I fitted a hot-start module that basically gives a false signal to the ECU when starting to say the engine is cold so that it energises the glow plugs. Starts fine now.
Sometimes mine starts instantly when hot and it seems to help if I give it a bit of accelerator. When it fires it is all six straight off. It isn't really a problem.It generally spins over quickly for a second or two and then goes, whereas when cold it starts instantly with no churning at all.
Alternatively, you can rotate the pump a little to advance the timing to compensate for the worn timing chains.
Still can't figure out why P38 didn't use td5 engine instead of the m51 ---- yet defender did keep td5 never the m51
Symes wrote:
Still can't figure out why P38 didn't use td5 engine instead of the m51 ---- yet defender did keep td5 never the m51
I think the m51 engine was ment to go in the X5 but BMW thought would try them out in the p38
Simple.
the P38 came out in 1994 and the TD5 was introduced in 1998.......
I have the TD5 in my D2 and I certainly wouldn't want it in the P38...