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Wanted to start a thread asking what made LandRover engineers design something in some way so as to be so annoying that it makes you want to ___!!!! Answers are not required to postings...... This is just a venting post...

  1. Why place the bolts on the P38 prop shaft in such a way that a speciality tool is needed that will only be ever used once in a lifetime? Why not make it accessible with an standard socket?
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Same for all Land rovers.

And a Nissan Patrol I serviced a few months ago..

Even the old Land cruisers have awkward prop bolts

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JMCLuimni wrote:

  1. Why place the bolts on the P38 prop shaft in such a way that a speciality tool is needed that will only be ever used once in a lifetime? Why not make it accessible with an standard socket?

All propshafts are pretty much like that. FWIW the specialist tool fits most British vehicle propshafts, and also TR6 halfshafts.

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Ones where the front prop joins the transfer box as the crossmember gets in the way too are the really awkward ones. Having struggled to get them tight when I was putting the transfer box back on after changing the chain, I thought the way to do it would be to buy some 3/8" UNF Allen bolts and use them instead.

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The wheel bearings are another source of grief. You are supposed to buy the whole hub from Landrover.
It is only DIY nuts like me that press the bearings out to save a few bob. Then spend more on a press.

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Wheel bearings aren’t just a Land Rover thing. My previous Suburban and Dakota were similar in that you needed to replace the whole hub. I had to do the Dakota twice as I opted for the cheap replacements the first time. The Suburban ones were still original when I gave it away with 425,000km.

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I like the concept behind this thread! I know I've had lots of these over the years with my various LR vehicles or others I've worked on - but unless it was 'yesterday' then I tend to try and push them away into the darker recesses of memory.

In general (more Defender-related) I've been really impressed by the lengths the designers went to to ensure maximum opportunties for aluminium vs steel catalytic corrosion, by sandwiching different metals together, in as many places as possible, and avoiding any form of physical barrier. Brilliant!

PS I'm not a great fan of the propshaft fixings either - even with the special tool.

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Jeeps need the whole hub as well. Well, my 1997 one does.

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No words needed .....

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