Dear All, I've just collected a late rare 2001 Vogue SE from a deceased estate(yes Vogue SE). It is my plan to break it but if anyone wants to try and save it I'll offer it 'complete'. PLEASE read entire add before messaging. It has NO KEYS , been sitting for 5 years and I've never heard it run. It's black with cream leather and black wood. Please only make contact if you have a trailer, cash & asked your wife FIRST. The car is complete and original, circa 140k. To make life easier here are some answers to your questions. 1; It's broken, 2; No idea 3, Poor condition. £1500 NO OFFERS. Collection only from Lincolnshire. (,4.6 engine, factory cats, original radio, good black wood)
A few pics to help with the decision.....
I've not seen it in the flesh yet, and I'm told the interior has a bit of mildew (but so did the red one I bought a while ago and that cleaned up nicely) but at least it isn't a Classic or Discovery so shouldn't be rotten.
still in better nick than mine.
I'm going over at the weekend to see if we can get it started. Might even chuck a bucket or two of water over it too.....
Go on buy it ;)
You know you want to.....
No, it's got a lightstone interior and I hate lightstone interiors......
The fact that it has no keys isn't a big problem provided the BECM etc hasn't been changed. You can buy a genuine key fob from a JLR main dealer for £250-300 if you take along the V5C. You can also get a replacement non-genuine key from Classic Rides North Wales They have a nice new website & now also sell genuine keys for £350 although they also do a two key one genuine & one non-genuine bundle for £350.
I'm looking for a full set of lightstone carpets , if it's being broken and there in decent condition ?
Quick Update. Still NO KEYS or V5. Today with the help of Richard we had her running. Ignition housing broken to allow steering to turn. We entered the EKA code through a Nanocom and with some fuel she fired up and ran up to temperature fine with no oil leaks. She is running slightly off with one lambda sensor showing in fault. No warning lights on dash. Radio and sat nav work fine and selects gears and air suspension seems to be good. All 4 air bags seem 'new' prior to parking up as well as the front tyres have never been used whatsoever but are 2017. A very basic guide to getting running under her own power. Replace BECM & ECU + keys. New rear brake pipe as it's split and a lambda sensor and battery. Fix steering column. Still £1500. No silly questions or time wasting please. She certainly can be saved but will need time and money. Great project and well worth saving.
After a bit of water......
As Phil says, ignition lock has been pulled out so it can be started with a pair of pliers. EKA entered with the Nanocom (it comes complete with all the handbooks including the service book and the all important security card) and, after syncing the BeCM and ECU, it fired up on a squirt or two of brake cleaner as the fuel tank was completely empty. Bunged half a gallon of petrol in it (that was all we had) and it fired up on that. Engine sounds very nice with no nasty noises, overheating or oil leaks. After letting the EAS compressor run for a few minutes with a door open, the EAS appears to be working perfectly and it shot straight up to the High setting. Seemed a bit reluctant to lower but it probably just needs a bit of use, it has been standing for over 5 years after all. Transfer case would select high and low ratios too, so nothing to worry about there either. Central locking works from the sill locking button on the drivers door so no reason to think it won't work from a key (once you've got one!). Even the drivers heated seat works.....
I'd say it doesn't need the BeCM and ECU changing (there's no need to swap both as the Nanocom can sync a replacement BeCM to an existing ECU), but CRNW can make a key blade to fit the existing locks. OK you wouldn't have a remote but it is a cheap option to be able to lock, unlock and start it. They could also supply a remote but at a greater cost.
The minimum needed is a key, a battery, a lambda sensor (idle sounded like it may have been running on 7 but the Nanocom reported an error on one lambda sensor so I suspect that was the cause), a pair of wiper blades, the rear brake pipe replacing (although probably wise to do the other side too) and a pair of rear tyres and that should be enough to get it through an MoT. For finishing it off, it needs a good clean, a headlining kit from Martrim, a zebra strip in the HEVAC (no idea if there are any problems there as more segments don't work than do). One of the blend motors didn't seem to want to do anything but what would you expect on a car that has been standing that long? They may well start to work with a bit of use too.
It is a very good basis for a really nice car with a relatively minor bit of work. We both decided if we had a nice, warm, workshop or it was mid summer, in a week we could get it almost perfect, but as neither of us has a nice, warm, workshop (and it isn't the middle of summer), it would be good to see it go to someone who does have who can return it to its former glory and get some use out of it.
Can we usually tell if the V8 idles with a misfire on one cylinder by hand feeling the engine rock?
Sorry if it's been mentioned or implied - what's the story with the pictured missing bits of steering column trim? If it can be started with pliers are the ignition barrel and steering lock OK?
UPDATE: She was actually registered in January 2002. Last Motd late 2019 and covered 3k since so looks like 4-5 years off the road. Last V5 change 2012.
Can we usually tell if the V8 idles with a misfire on one cylinder by hand feeling the engine rock?
I do not know by hand feel, but I was feeling something was "odd" and I had a defective coil, with misfire on cil 7 - more on another thread
Usually if the RV8 is in order, nothing is felt ... is very smooth