Well, the RR was thrown into service today. It’s done short trips around home for the last few weeks and hasn’t given me any problems so today I decided it would be the weapon of choice for a trip to meet a friend at Lymm Services.
In October I bought a sports exhaust for the XFR in Essex and had it transported to a friend of mine in Welwyn Garden City. He also had an alloy wheel, side vents for the Range Rover, deployable side steps for the Range Rover, and a few other bits. I also collected a genuine Land Rover boot mat on the way down in Carlisle. Thankfully, rather then having to go all the way down south which would have involved an overnight stay, we met at Lymm Services where we were able to have a coffee outside in glorious sunshine before we both went our separate ways home Smile
The Range Rover covered 468 miles in it’s stride without batting an eye lid at it. There’s a feint rumble from the drivers front wheel bearing which got irritating after a while, thankfully though, it’s quiet enough that the radio didn’t need to be that loud to drown it out. It’s definitely next on the list of things to do though!
It cost me £33 on LPG to get from Lymm Services to the LPG station we pass in Paisley on the way home, according to the trip computer it was 225 miles. So 225 miles for £33. Can’t grumble at that. In my last one that was on Petrol I used to get circa 300 miles to £100 of petrol in 2014, so a significant saving. Not enough to make me convert one myself but when buying one that’s already converted it’s a pleasant benefit.
David.
We’ve got a 2007 Supercharged L322 and a 2012 4.4 TDV8 Autobiography.
If I were walking out onto the driveway a choosing a car to do a long distance trip in, I’d walk past my P38’s every day of the week. The refinement of the L322 is way ahead of that of the P38. The pre 06 facelift cars weren’t as well refined as the later ones from a comfort point of view.
I had to collect the caravan from servicing today in the 4.4 TDV8 (it ticked over 23k today) and towing with that thing is incredible, you don’t feel the 8 speed box changing gear, it’s got so much torque that you don’t know there’s a 30ft caravan behind it, and in the wind the rack and pinion steering on it is so tight that you don’t feel the movement from the caravan.
I love my P38’s and have spent a lot of time replacing all of the bushes on ours with genuine LR bushes and they drive better then most P38’s I’ve ever driven, we spent over 4 grand putting a brand new “fettled with” 4.6 engine in one of ours last year too. Credit where it’s due to the P38 as I do love them, they’re great for doing what they do, however, I personally find that the L322’s are better cars in every way.
It’s easy enough to check the logbook to see which ones are real.
There’s apps on your phone that will show you what model they are after entering the registration number. Both of mine show as “Vogue SE” when looking them up.
David.
We're getting there now. All brake hoses are replaced, the rear brakes are rebuilt but the arch liners aren't back in yet. I need to use some tar removed and get some treatment rubbed into them to clean them up properly.
The front brakes have also been stripped, cleaned and painted too.
David.
I'm going to be selling one of my 2002 Alveston Red Vogue SE's but am unsure of the value or what to ask for the car. I see late cars advertised for a lot of money but don't know if it's realistic pricing of if they're selling for that sort of money.
Mechanically, this car is superb. It runs beautifully, doesn't use a drop of water or oil, and runs beautifully on LPG after Simon set it up properly. For a 19 year old car with 119k on the clock, the bodywork is in great shape and has an amazing shine bar a few marks here and there. I'm likely going to get the bulge on the rear bumper sorted out before I advertise it properly too.
Anyway, mechanically she's had a ton of work done in the 4 years I've had her, the list as far as I can remember (probably a few things missed) is below:
4 Air springs
Compressor Refurb
Valve Block Refurb
Air Suspension Relay
PAS Pipe
Full service kit x 3
LPG Reducer
Plug Leads (Magnecor KV85)
Aux Belt
Both Aux Belt Idlers & Tensioner
Coolant Pipes for throttle body and radiator return
Heater Matrix O Rings
Tailgate Struts
Bonnet Struts
ABS Accumulator
HEVAC Repair Ribbon & Bulbs
Wipers
Headlight Wipers
Air Con Condenser
Air Con Drier
Air Con Recharge
Radius arm bushes
Panhard rod bushes front and rear
Steering Damper
Drop Links
Anti Roll Bar bushes
Exhaust - Cats, Centre section and back boxes
Rear axle oil seals
Rear pads due to oil contamination
Rear callipers cleaned and painted
Front and Rear diff oil
New Rubber Mats
Transfer Box Oil
Both gearbox oil cooler pipes
Gearbox Oil Cooler
Genuine LR gearbox filter
Both air con pipes that run along the bulkhead
Plenum Foam on scuttle panel
3 Air Con Pipes under bonnet
Scuttle Panel Plenum Foam
Steering Box Input Shaft
Steering Box
BECM Repair to resolve central locking issues
Track Rod
Drag Link
2 Lambda Sensors (Bosch)
Replacement Amplifier
2 New Subwoofer Speakers fitted to original Enclosure
Grill and headlight trims painted
Tow bar removed, blasted and repainted
4 new Dunlop EAS height sensors
2 new front height sensor heat shields
Tow bar converted to full 13 pin electrics inc split charge
Tracking
Air Con Recharge
Half Leather/Half Wood Steering Wheel
4 new Michelin Cross Climate SUV tyres (done less then 2000 miles)
Pictures of her are here:
https://rangerovers.pub/topic/503-2002-vogue-se-restoration-thread?page=8#pid28555
Would appreciate any thoughts on value too as I'm not really sure where to place her.
Thanks,
David.
I sealed the freshly refurbished wheels for the P38 the other day, today I cleaned the tyres with tyre shampoo and then put some silicon based tyre treatment on them.
I then though to myself that you can’t refit fresh wheels with manky wheel nuts so I polished each of them 1 by 1 today too.
Before:
After:
Just need to get the brakes rebuilt and everything can start going back together.
David.
Mark Adams at Tornado Systems offers a D2 Hot Climate stat with the necessary pipe work to make it fit a P38. That runs it 10 degrees cooler and he swears by it and has done a lot of testing and performance mapping on cars running it so I wouldn’t worry if you’re only a few degrees cool.
The only advisory that this car got on it’s last MOT was corroded brake ferrules on the front brake flexi hoses.
Whilst it’s in bits and whilst we’re doing a brake fluid change it makes sense to change the brake hoses so these shiny bits arrived from Rimmer Bros today :)
Still waiting for the caliper paint to arrive though.
David.
Well, after another couple of additions to my collection in the last couple of weeks, unfortunately, due to a lack of space, something has to give.
Having two identical P38's that both need constant fettling to keep them tip top isn't ideal so I've decided I'm going to be parting company with the Alveston Red one that's been covered in this thread.
Mechanically, this car is superb. It runs beautifully, doesn't use a drop of water or oil, and runs beautifully on LPG after Simon set it up properly. For a 19 year old car with 119k on the clock, the bodywork is in excellent shape and has an amazing shine bar a few marks here and there. I'm likely going to get the bulge on the rear bumper sorted out before I advertise it properly too.
Anyway, mechanically she's had a ton of work done in the 4 years I've had her, the list as far as I can remember (probably a few things missed) is below:
4 Air springs
Compressor Refurb
Valve Block Refurb
Air Suspension Relay
PAS Pipe
Full service kit
LPG Reducer Refurb Kit
LPG Reducer
Plug Leads
Aux Belt
Both Aux Belt Idlers & Tensioner
Coolant Pipes for throttle body and radiator return
Heater Matrix O Rings
Tailgate Struts
Bonnet Struts
ABS Accumulator
HEVAC Repair Ribbon & Bulbs
2 Lambda Sensors
Wipers
Headlight Wipers
Air Con Condenser
Air Con Drier
Air Con Recharge
Radius arm bushes
Panhard rod bushes front and rear
Steering Damper
Drop Links
Anti Roll Bar bushes
Exhaust - Cats, Centre section and back boxes
Rear axle oil seals
Rear pads due to oil contamination
Rear callipers cleaned and painted
Front and Rear diff oil
New Rubber Mats
Transfer Box Oil
Both gearbox oil cooler pipes
Gearbox Oil Cooler
Genuine LR gearbox filter
Both air con pipes that run along the bulkhead
Plenum Foam on scuttle panel
3 Air Con Pipes
Scuttle Panel Plenum Foam
Steering Box Input Shaft
Steering Box
BECM Repair to resolve central locking issues
Track Rod
Drag Link
2 Lambda Sensors (Bosch this time)
Replacement Amplifier
2 New Subwoofer Speakers fitted to original Enclosure
Grill and headlight trims painted
Tow bar removed, blasted and repainted
4 new Dunlop EAS height sensors
2 new front height sensor heat shields
Tow bar converted to full 13 pin electrics inc split charge
Tracking
Air Con Recharge
Half Leather/Half Wood Steering Wheel
4 new Michelin Cross Climate SUV tyres (done less then 2000 miles)
If anybody is interested in her, or knows someone who might be, point them this way.
Pictures of her are here:
https://rangerovers.pub/topic/503-2002-vogue-se-restoration-thread?page=8#pid28555
Would appreciate any thoughts on value too as I'm not really sure where to place her.
Thanks,
David.
Jeez. He’s a lucky bloke!
Taking the calipers off this weekend to clean them up. Might even get them and the carriers blasted before painting them and reassembly.
I’ve got new centre caps for the wheels here somewhere too.
They are indeed. They will be silver at some point in the near future.
And we can draw this one to a close now that it's passed it's MOT :)
Onto the next project!
Always a nice relief to get a pass!
I had one on Monday, one on Wednesday and have my 3rd MOT this week on the L322 so am hoping for a hat trick!
David.
Well, seeing as the other thread was about the engine tear down which is finished I’ll use this one to document all the little bits an pieces that we do to the car.
Just before Christmas the VSE that had the new engine (BT02) had a replacement heater matrix as it was leaking badly so that’s one big job ticked off the list.
Today, I’ve just collected it’s wheel from being refurbished and have this evening fitted a set of Michelin Cross Climates to the wheels. They’ve done a superb job of the refurb.
To say I’m pleased with the results would be an understatement.
Finished putting the L322 back together for it’s MOT tomorrow and collected the P38 wheels from refurb before fitting the new tyres.
Removed the wheels and tyres from one of the VSE’s so I can drop them off for a refurb tomorrow. Also ordered another set of Cross Climates SUV’s to go on it when the wheels come back.
David.
We’ve got Monroe shocks on one ours and they’re great. One has been replaced due to leaking but other then that, the ride on them is great.
I’m still waiting for the fan bearing and fan shroud to arrive from Land Rover so whilst it’s not being used, I decided I’d give it a decent wash.
Considering it’s not been machine polished yet, the shine on it is pretty good. Considering it’s black, the paint isn’t even that badly swirled either which is quite pleasing.
David.
X8R o-rings have arrived so will be getting the valve block rebuilt in the few days.
David.