I got the warning 'Beep!' & the message FUSE 10 FAILED. I checked the manual & Fuse 10 is the driver's seat (RHD) & indeed I discovered that I could not adjust my seat. Fuse 10 is conveniently located in the little fuse box under the right hand seat. I then spent about ten minutes scratching my head as the fuse appeared to be OK. Eventually I realised that I was looking at the wrong 30A fuse. Once I found the correct fuse I confirmed that it had blown & replaced it. The seat can now be adjusted again. The heated seats have never worked & I have never bothered to fix them as I am not a fan of heated seats. As a former co-worker commented to me regarding his new car with heated seats "It feels just like I pissed myself!😀
Mina says that every time I turn the ignition on and has done for about 8 or 9 years, only on mine it says FUSE 20 FAILED. Fuse 20 hasn't failed and as it supplies power to the passenger electric seat I don't have, I just ignore it. Apparently there's a resistor on the BeCM power board that is part of the fuse checking circuit and it sometimes fails. I've got a spare BeCM power board that would cure it but have never got around to fitting it. I've got so used to it, if I don't get the Beep when I first turn the ignition on, I'll probably think something is wrong......
nigelbb wrote:
....found the correct fuse I confirmed that it had blown & replaced it. The seat can now be adjusted again...
If the seat fuse is blowing WITHOUT you pressing buttons, you might want to look at the inflatable lumber support. (I beleive) this is the only seat function that has a switched negative (it has a live unswitched wire in the seat back). You can access this wire without removing the seat but I didn't find this out in time.
Today I've decided the p38 (and a spares car) need to go. Insurance is now so ridiculous I can't justify keeping them. Tax & insurance >£2k even with very limited miles. I can get traders insurance but I don't have a big car collection, just the old p38s.
Sad times, I've only had them about 5 years/18months.
Will be back to pick brains about types of wheels and seats before I finally send these great old machines on their way.
That sounds a lot. Tax on a pre-2001 P38 is only £30 a month and I'm paying just under a grand a year for unlimited mileage, unlimited number of cars, maximum value on each £10k, traders policy. As long as they see a bit of turnover they are happy. A couple of years ago insurers got very twitchy about Range Rovers due to the number of the newer ones being stolen, although when I explained that although I had 2 listed on my policy they were older ones that aren't at risk of being stolen. Last year they were only loading anything later than 2010.
If you are going for limited mileage, then a Classic policy might be an option.
Had a slowly advancing rotational "grunch, grunch" noise that was one of those that seemed to be coming from a bunch of different places.
Finally had an assistant hang out of the LH rear window and listen. He thought rear wheel bearing.
Drained Diff, and found major water contamination in lube, odd, since i had not been in any deep water since last oil change in diff. breather good as well.
Anyway, I got a good second hand 4 pin diff from breaker, and installed it today.
Checked wheel bearings when I pulled axles. Both good.
Problem solved! $80 bucks, including diff, oil and black silicone!!
Easy job. Gotta love these beasts!
Original diff looks good on inspection, so I am thinking carrier bearing. Will disassemble when it gets warmer and see.
Kbs wrote:
Today I've decided the p38 (and a spares car) need to go. Insurance is now so ridiculous I can't justify keeping them. Tax & insurance >£2k even with very limited miles. I can get traders insurance but I don't have a big car collection, just the old p38s.
Sad times, I've only had them about 5 years/18months.
Will be back to pick brains about types of wheels and seats before I finally send these great old machines on their way.
Give NFU Mutual a call. They have local offices all over the country. I was very pleasantly surprised when at last renewal LV bumped the premium by 50%. I am paying about £340 for my P38 which is not bad considering my wife's Smart FourTwo costs £275. We are loaded as my wife only passed her test 18 months ago.
Kbs wrote:
nigelbb wrote:
....found the correct fuse I confirmed that it had blown & replaced it. The seat can now be adjusted again...
If the seat fuse is blowing WITHOUT you pressing buttons, you might want to look at the inflatable lumber support. (I beleive) this is the only seat function that has a switched negative (it has a live unswitched wire in the seat back). You can access this wire without removing the seat but I didn't find this out in time.
I got the FUSE 10 FAILED message again yesterday so it looks like I need to investigate what's actually causing the fuse to blow. We had -5C in Brittany yesterday & the fuse blew when I pressed the PROG button on the HEVAC to clear the ice from the windows. I definitely didn't press any buttons to move the seat.
AFAIK no P38 seat has an inflatable lumbar support. I thought perhaps some short in the heating elements was causing the problem. It's -5C here again this morning & the same is forecast for tomorrow so I'm not going to do any work on the car for a few days. We have lived in this cottage for five years & this is the first time we have had such low temperatures which are very unusual for Brittany.
nigelbb wrote:
AFAIK no P38 seat has an inflatable lumbar support.
Yes they do, all of them with memory seats and possibly those with electric non-memory too.....
From the owners handbook
I use my lumber support, great for my lower back pain. Some kind of compressor down there, I can hear it whirring away.
Gilbertd wrote:
nigelbb wrote:
AFAIK no P38 seat has an inflatable lumbar support.
Yes they do, all of them with memory seats and possibly those with electric non-memory too.....
From the owners handbook
I knew that my Vogue has memory seats with adjustable lumbar support but didn't realise that it was a pneumatic inflatable thing. I thought that it was just moving a solid pad. I got my seat adjusted just how I like it years & years ago, stored it as Memory 1 & haven't adjusted the seat for many years.
It's unusually cold for Brittany at present (down to -5C) so I will wait until it warms up a bit before investigating seat wiring.
nigelbb wrote:
Gilbertd wrote:
nigelbb wrote:
AFAIK no P38 seat has an inflatable lumbar support.
Yes they do, all of them with memory seats and possibly those with electric non-memory too.....
From the owners handbook
I knew that my Vogue has memory seats with adjustable lumbar support but didn't realise that it was a pneumatic inflatable thing. I thought that it was just moving a solid pad. I got my seat adjusted just how I like it years & years ago, stored it as Memory 1 & haven't adjusted the seat for many years.
It's unusually cold for Brittany at present (down to -5C) so I will wait until it warms up a bit before investigating seat wiring.
Maybe it is a moving pad? I've only moved mine twice in 3 years , I just recall a whirring noise and assumed it was a compressor.
It is a pump and bladder. On non-memory seats the supply from fuse 10 goes directly to the lumbar pump but on a car with memory seats it goes to the seat outstation.