Right...

Before I bugger off for a couple of months work (it's been pushed back a few days due to work Visa issues!) I thought I would create a separate thread here to be able to discuss the 'Summer Camp' that we were talking about in the other thread I had going about the death wobble...

So far we have interest from (in no particular order):
Orangebean
Sloth
Gilbertd
Oldshep56
Myself

Date we have fairly well decided is 2nd/3rd July
Location is my workshop just outside of Marlborough. I have mentioned to my mate that I would like to be able to use bother workshop bays that weekend, so fingers crossed the Discovery that is currently still lurking in there is gone by then. I got the steering shaft back on the green one that we are fixing up, so it just needs the arch liner, mud guard and wheel put back on and then it can be shifted out.

I was on Landyzone and mentioned I had the ball joint press kit, and a couple of guys on there are interested in me giving them a hand to replace their ball joints... What do people think about adding a couple more names to the list (assuming they are about that weekend), and doing that aswell? May be a couple more people to add to the forum here, and generally other owners to meet?

I am conscious about what we want to get done in the couple of days, and don't want to try and fit toooo much in as we don't want to get to Sunday afternoon and find that we still have a bunch of P38's in bits and people needing to drive long distances to get home!

I would like to get a bit formal with it all in the coming weeks/month or so once the tour I'm on in China has bedded in and I'm not spending every waking hour in a dark theatre - but mostly just to get a definite idea of what people want to get done, and if people are wanting to bring any parts they need, or if I put in a bulk order for any parts required and see if we can't get a bit of a discount. Things like ATF, engine oil, diff oil etc will be cheaper if bought in a larger quantity, and I am happy to buy it all in advance and have it there for general use and we can work out what the per-litre cost is for what people use etc. I'd like to think we'd all save a bit that way too!
Other parts, again, I am happy to go to someone like LRdirect or Island 4x4 who offer options on OEM/Aftermarket parts and do a bulk order of everything that we need for people to do what they want, if it is easier to have them all delivered here and then ready and waiting for that weekend. Or if the consensus is that it's easier for everyone to bring their own parts that they are wanting to fit, then that's fine by me too!

Let me know your thoughts about adding a couple more people to what we already have (I haven't even mentioned it on RR.net yet) and the bits about parts, and as I say - I'll try and get the majority of the organisation done whilst I am away, and then we can just get stuck in when the time rolls around!

Cheers, <br>
Marty

Morning Marty <br>
I'm conscious of the fact that this is as much about giving time as well as receiving, so I'm not looking to be too ambitious in what I want to achieve. I'd like to fit my BMR kit, which as I'll be spending time with wheels off brake bleeding, I may as well replace pads all round. I'd also like to take advantage of Gilbertd's LPG expertise and do a complete service and set-up on my system- going to have to take vapouriser off anyway to get at the brake stuff. If there's time, hopefully Sloth will be bringing up (amongst other bits) the tilt/ slide mech from the upper steering column as well as the surrounding plastics, so I may fit that. <br>
I'll be bringing the other half's event shelter (hopefully the RR will fit underneath). Not too much crawling around under the car so I can work under that, assuming you have some hard standing where I can put it up and jack the car, so I don't need to be in the workshop bays. Be nice if you have a "clean area" inside where I can do the dismantling of the actual ABS stuff though. <br>
The logistics of what can be done in the time and the programming of work also includes having the car working enough in the evenings to get to the B&B or whatever. I'm going to come up on the Friday during the day so will have some tinker time then. I'll be booking B&B for Friday and Saturday nights. I'd be interested to know if anyone else is staying rather than "commuting". I can then potentially book more than 1 room if required. Let me know all, when you reply to this thread. <br>
As far as bulk parts/ fluids, I've already got my bits on the shelf (or hopefully being Slothed), but 5L of brake fluid would seem like a good bulk purchase. <br>
As for inviting others, that seems like a good call. A set of ball joints per day is doable and will only tie up 1 bay for 2 days. If we crack on we can possibly do both in 1 day. <br>
I'll add in any other thoughts I have on here when I think of them <br>
Cheers <br>
Mark

What a great idea guys, this is the true pub-spirit. I won't be there because there is some 700 kms and a Channel between us but I whish I was there to help a hand and combine faces with names.

Success! Tony.

That's no excuse Tony! <br>
Road kilometers are about the same as I'll do. The rest is feet up on the ferry :-)

Hi Mark,

Thanks for your reply...
I have built a work-bench in the workshop which should be adequate for the rebuilding of your ABS modulator.
Brake pads etc should be easy enough as you say.
Hard standing... there is some space outside the workshop, yes - but it is also access for the other workshops (we are on the corner :( ). There is some parking space in front of a grain silo - but this is on a bit of a slope - so if would probably be useful for anything that doesn't require jacking up etc. There is a bit of flat space, but it is unpaved, so again not the best for pulling things apart, but may be of use again for interior works.

Brake fluid in bulk sounds like a good plan, yes, as I want to swap my modulator for a spare I've got and will need to flush the system through and re-bleed aswell.

My list is a bit more comprehensive - but a lot of that will depend on if I've got some of the replacement bits organised by then!

Hopefully install a recon steering box, and a new PS pump, and possibly lower steering column linkage <br>
Radius Arm bushes <br>
Swap ABS modulator for a spare one I have here and refresh fluid/bleed. <br>
Possible look at gearshift mechanism (bit tight getting down into 1st/2nd gear - might just be the cable) <br>
Possible swap VC if I've managed to swap the front bearing out of a spare VC by then <br>
General service - Diff oils, engine oil, Transfer case oil <br>

I know I can get the recon steering boxes, and I already have a new PS pump sitting in the garage waiting to be installed, so don't think that should be too much of a nightmare to do. I've still got some DEX III ATF to refill the system and do the T/Case

Not bothered if I don't get radius arm bushes done - I am not sure if the budget will allow getting a press and the bushing tool at the moment, so that might be a job for later in the summer!

I have the spare ABS modulator already here to fit, so that should be easy enough with a few extra hands!

VC bearing - again, if I can get a press and get the bearing changed (I've got a spare VC which isn't seized to fit it to) then that is a fairly easy job to do with a bit of help... though I might get some new bolts for the crossmember and pull that out this time as it was a bit tight the last time I took the VC out was going to swap it, only to find the bearing was just as bad on the replacement VC!

Other general service stuff for me should be pretty quick aswell - engine oil/filter won't take long to do, nor will diff oils.

I reckon we could get a couple of ball joint swaps done in a day - as long as the hubs/swivels come apart easily enough!!

I would love to come to this if you'd have me. However I'm very tentative at the moment because July is looking pretty busy and I live up in Yorkshire. BUT, if I can come I warn you I have very limited skills. I can make tea, coffee and lift/pass things. I'd really just like to put some names to faces and listen very hard indeed while trying to keep the stupid questions to a minumum. Another thing, it'd be nice to drive a RR with sorted suspension so I can compare it with mine which is quite vague and likes to wobble on rebound. Or get someone who knows what they're talking about have a go in mine to see what they think.

I'm a computer geek by trade so I can bring a laptop and do things with serial adaptors but I don't know if there's an internet connection so I might not be that much use.

You are more than welcome if you are about that weekend... If not, then we can arrange a time for you to come down if you would like me to take a look at the bits that you mentioned previously in email (I'm just about to reply to you! Playing catch up now!!)

There isn't Internet at the workshop, no - other than the sketchy 3G/Cell signal. I have tea/coffee making facilities there - so we shouldn't be short of a brew or 2!!

I'm pretty sure most of our vehicles are all on EAS (the green one that myself and a mate are in half each on and fixing up to sell is on coils - and it's very noticeable!) so there should be plenty of expertise on that front!

No questions are too silly - there's a lot of communal knowledge in the group, and I'm sure we'll all be happy to talk P38's!

Marty, that's great! I'll have to see what I can do for getting down there.
I'll reply to your email as and when you send it. I wouldn't want you to think that I'm chasing you on here, I realise that range rovers are a passion rather than a job for you, and I do respect that.

I hadn't seen this thread :)

Sorry Mark, I haven't forgotten about your email - I'll reply to it now!

Hi Marty,
I can't commit to being at the camp at the moment due to health reasons. It wouldn't be the first time I have agreed to be somewhere and come the day am too sick to attend.
Fortunately here is not a lot needs doing to my Beast ( he says touching wood). At this moment in time, it needs a new compressor, the cruise control tubes could do with replacing (it doesn't work) and the CD player doesn't work.
I won't really be able to commit until the week before.

Hi OldShep,

That's not a problem - just let us know when you can and I am sure that we will be able to accommodate you if you can make it!

Have taken the plunge and booked hotel, so it's on for Summer Camp!

Blimey, that's organised. I don't even book family holidays until there's only a couple of weeks to go.

A life in Project & Programme Management has left its scars, I think

I'm at 75% likely, with most of the 25% being down to the Rangey!
We'll see how she's running with the new ABS and O2 sensor and with a bit of luck I'll be there :)
Would it be sensible to all book the same hotel to share transport?

I'm in this one http://www.swindonalexandrahouse.co.uk/ <br>
After a lifetime of corporate hotels, I love the anonymity they give as opposed to the in-your-face contact you have with a B&B. Prices for anything in that part of the world are not cheap. This one has the bonus of cancellation up to day before at no cost...

Orangebean wrote:

I'm in this one http://www.swindonalexandrahouse.co.uk/ <br>
After a lifetime of corporate hotels, I love the anonymity they give as opposed to the in-your-face contact you have with a B&B. Prices for anything in that part of the world are not cheap. This one has the bonus of cancellation up to day before at no cost...

Jesus, OB, if you're staying there, you're earning far too much money.

Jesus, OB, if you're staying there, you're earning far too much money.__
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I wish- I just got a very good deal ;-)

I just checked, not bad at all, £59 for a standard room. Almost makes me want to break the habit of a lifetime and book it......

Eh?? £59?? I looked and it was 99!!!