You don't waste any time!! Not that you have it to waste with the MOT needing to be retested on it... but even so, more drive than I've got a lot of the time!!

Though that being said, I have tested 4 switchpacks since I got home this evening and removed the offending switches on all of them, ready for me to work on them tomorrow once I've replaced some door latches for a guy who's coming down from I think Birmingham..

So the good news is... Morat... I should have one ready to send up to you next week... I will keep one aside...

It can be a bit of a pain to get it all running right again... I've been through all that over the last year or 2 with mine (because I've been away so much, I haven't been able to dedicate the proper time to it in one go...

But if it won't run right on petrol, then the running on gas will throw things out even more... well it did on mine!

If it makes you feel any better, I still occasionally get P0172 and P0172 (adaptation on bank 1/2) codes come up in the engine ECU, even though it feels it runs properly. I think in my case it's because the gas system needs a tweak, but at least it actually runs nicer on gas now and doesn't throw the trims out within a few miles of driving like it used to...

Get the O2 sensor replaced, reset the adaptives, and then run it on the expensive stuff for 100 or so miles for the petrol ECU to adapt back to where it should be (it will have slight adaptations to account for sensor tolerances and engine wear) and then see how she goes on gas again...

Lambda Sensor

There's one listed on eBay for £45 plus postage... Genuine Bosch/Land Rover boxed.

MHK100940 is the part number if that helps..

Marty

I did mine in Cupro aswell, and whilst it's harder than standard copper to run - you won't need to do it again for the life of the vehicle (with any luck!)

I had to get one of these:
[Flare tool](http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brake-Pipe-Flaring-Tool-for-3-16-Brake-Pipes-Professional-Hand-held-SAE-Double-/361550230463?

There are a load of different sellers on eBay who do them, but it is designed to be able to do Cupro and steel lines, with single and double flares... and the best bit... it can be used on the vehicle, so you don't have to try and get the line the right length, flare it, put the unions on and then weave it into place... I just ran my replacement lines off the reel, with a bending spring on it to do the curves/corners, then cut the pipe to length and flared it.

Oh, and whilst the pipe is 3/16" (or 4.75mm?) the unions are M10 threaded rater than imperial. I found that the SAE flares done on the flaring tool worked fine.. I wasn't sure whether they were SAE or DIN flares, but as the SAE looked most common, and it did the single/double flares for both sides of the unions, I went for that.

Been on 4 years with no leaks, and joined up OK to the existing lines behind the front wheel arch liner!

Marty

I honestly don't know why they have those extra little drop pipes on the rears... my '01 has them, but when I did mine, I just made a couple up as close to the original as possible..

I don't see why they can't go straight to the hoses either though...

I thought that was just the death wobble?

I did that off the lights once I had put the old LPG map back in the ECU... sport button and a dollop of right foot (not even all the way to the carpet!) And away she went up to about 4500 and before I knew it is was doing closer to 50... with a smile on my face...

Think I might just have to use sport mode a bit more.... haha

I've done it before aswell...

Usually I'm really good at putting it in Park, but one day obviously forgot.. turned the key.. nothing.

I'm sure my heart skipped a beat, then I looked at the shifter and called myself a couple of choice words, back to park, and she fired up..
You would have thought that there would be a 'bleep' and message for that, like there is for 'select neutral' when the transfer case is changing and you shift into gear...

If you have a dodgy O2 sensor on the other bank, then it will also probably throw things out....

I'm currently on a fill-empty cycle to see what my mileage is like on gas. Now it's running a somewhat properly I filled up before Summer Camp and got 60L into the tank, which meant I had a total fill of about 75L.

Including the to/from summer camp, and the trip down to London yesterday, I'm up to about 150miles on the trip computer.

I got to about 160miles last time before I filled up and I reckon I had about 15L left.

Computer in the RR showed an MPG of 14.3mpg before I came to London, and showing 15.0 when I arrived.

I'm going to run it on gas tomorrow until I get to 200 miles (about half way home I think) or until it runs out and switches back to petrol - whichever comes first! Then I'll refill when I get home and post my figures up too.

I think it might be running a touch lean still under load as 50-70mph acceleration is a bit gutless, but I think it is also doing it in top gear with the torque converter locked up unless I really poke the throttle.

Figures in a couple of days...

I must say that I think I'll be going for slightly softer pads the next time around.

I went with the EBC pads all round, and whilst the fronts are alright, they are too hard for the rears, which don't do much, and I get some squeal on them, even after a few years..

Something a bit softer might be better on the back at least. Especially given the price!

Sorry - I haven't meant to just go completely quiet on everyone now it's over!!

Thanks all for coming along - those that came one day, and both days alike.
My only regret was that we couldn't get a lineup picture of all the P38's together - as I am sure (even with the green one, and my 2 restoration projects...) that we had about 9 of them there at one point! Which I think is a fairly rare occasion, given how many seem to get scrapped for no apparent reason!

Also, other than Grrrrrr/Jules who came to visit on the second day - I think we are all doing pretty bloody well (and disproving the naysayers out there) by having V8's on LPG...

I will keep Chris' tools (big spanner and smaller ratchet spanners) aside until we can next reunite them to him.

I also look forward to the next one - and the fact that there won't be a disco there to move! Though next time there will probably only be one workshop bay, as I'll definitely have one of the project P38's in bits by then! And chances are the green one will still be there... though if I end up buying it out, my aim will be to get it finished, cleaned, MOT'd, and sold before winter... not sure how that will work out, given my work schedule for the next 6 months, but I can try!

Miles - I haven't forgotten about the switchpack... I will drop you a PM/email at some point about it and we can work out a plan. I think Nick mentioned to me something about your front locks aswell?

Thanks all for coming, and apologies about having to move the disco... twice... I really had hoped that it would have been gone by the time we were wanting to be there!

Cheers!
Marty

PS - I'll post up what pictures I did get a bit later!

I did notice a few bits of trim kicking about, I will keep them aside (IE they will probably stay exactly where they are until I am next up there to put them aside!) for you

:)

Thanks for coming past and for the big spanner...
Think you left a set of ratchet spanners here, so think Richard is going to take them (and I'll give him big spanner too) as he's over your way and I think I heard him say he was passing Harlow at some point too.

Sounds like we are going to have a fun weekend!

I've made a list of things I need to get/sort/throw in the boot in the morning and no doubt will run around putting more stuff in as I see it...

I hope my ABS modulator reservoir is dry by the morning (it's in the boiler cupboard) as I've had it in parts washer solution and then fresh water to try and clean as much crud out of the filters as possible.

Going to try and remember to chuck the grease gun in aswell and a cartridge of grease, and then we can all leave with freshly greased UJ's...

Let's hope the weather does it's part - and we get a load done!

Please do! I'm going to bring a pair on lump hammers as Orangebean mentioned about doing a hub seal, and that means getting a front hub apart.... I've already got the old brake disc standing by...

Oh, and there's another guy dropping past (from Luton!) with his DSE on Sunday morning for me to swap out an engine ECU and resync it... he's a bit of a donut I think as I've told him what the problem is likely to be about 4 different times now, but he keeps asking the same question, or taking it places and getting told different things... he waited until I was back from China for me to have a look at it, and then books it in somewhere locally who charges him for doing sod all... still will be happy to have a look at it for him... for a fee..

Thanks for that.... I've been out and had a look, and it's bigger than my 36mm fan nut spanner, so I'm guessing it's 40 or 42mm easy.

LPG - I'll have my laptop with me, and we can hook it up and have a look and see what errors the ECU shows (if any) but I am sure that given that we have so many there on LPG - we should be able to at least figure out where the problem is!

I'll be there at 10am with the keys to open up - if you are there a bit earlier, then you'll see my 2 blue 'project' P38's parked outside. The workshop is in the unit just next to where the P38's are (they're outside a grain store) so if you see them, you are in the right place!

See you tomorrow...

Marty

OK, Question for someone who's coming tomorrow....

Anyone have a REALLY BIG spanner? I'm about to go an have a look at my steering box, but the replacement one doesn't have the arm on it, so will need to swap that over from my one... which means a BIG spanner/pipe wrench to undo the old nut.

I'm going to go and measure it up, but I think the biggest I have spanner-wise is 32mm, which I have a feeling is going to be a bit too small...

Hi Sloth,

Yes - I did get your PM - and have replied. :)

Wow... so maybe a record for P38's running on LPG too.... current count is 4 - 5 if no10chris makes it and we can get his sorted... 2 on single point and 2 on multipoint...

If you redo the pipework, then go one size smaller on the hose than the ends.... I have 6mm fittings, and replaced hose with 6mm, and then had some leaks - same with pressure side from vap - 12mm fittings and 12mm pipe and had issues... 6mm fittings, with 5mm pipe, and 12mm fittings with 11mm pipe, and happy days :)

And typically as I posted that, the doorbell just rang and the steering box has arrived :)

I'll still be there for between 10 and 10:30 in the morning as I need to get LPG, and a splash of petrol for the green one to make sure it has enough to move it about!

What LPG system does it have? Single or Multipoint?

If it's multipoint and has a small white connector for the LPG ECU diagnostics, then chances are it's one of the AEB ECU varients that I have a cable for and either have/can get the software for - so I could hook it up for you and see if there are any errors showing. I'm fairly sure between us all we would be able to figure it out!

Are you on LPG on your new one Sloth?

Also - for those coming tomorrow... Orangebean and I were up at the workshop today and dropped off our tools and various bits. Wheel arch liner and wheel is back on the Green P38, and I started her up to make sure she was happy (and thus moveable tomorrow) and all good on that front.
The disco should be being moved in the morning - we may have to help a bit with shifting it outside, but as long as my mate is there and getting it out, then I'll be happy!

Time tomorrow - I am going to aim to get there for between 10am and 10:30am. I have a couple of bits to do in the morning, and also my refurb steering box didn't show up today like it was supposed to, so I'm going to try and see if there is tracking info and look into it tonight, but if I'm about first thing in the morning, then I'll be hopeful that it arrives before I have to leave home!

So, we shall see you all in the morning - as and when you arrive! we will need to try and get a group picture and maybe go for a world record for the number of P38's in one place... haha..

Marty

I'll give them a shout when I'm back tomorrow and see what they say...

The parts catalogue online shows them as being 14mm and 16mm which I presume is ID so as long as they do something like that, it should be fine.

Worst case, I'll just reuse and hope for the best!

Sorry, just seen this...

Yes, I have hydraulic crimpers... from memory they are already up at the workshop too... Haven't used them in awhile, but did the job the last time I used them!