Richard dear boy, this is the age of technology, don't you know !!! The next generation will have a chip in the skull to save having to remember passwords !
Did you ever see the program on BBC2 where the tech editor guy had a chip inserted under his skin ? I think near the wrist. Saved him having to carry an ID card for the access control to his office etc. Spooky stuff, but it could solve a lot of problems with the "thicko's" in society. We could track them everywhere - shades of 1984, and the Boomtown Rats "Someone's Looking At You".
Pierre3.
Yep, I know exactly what you mean. It's unfortunate that we have to have all these user names and passwords to remember and log in to different websites.
For me, the worst was at work, we had to change our passwords every month due to security concerns [ a very large, very well known pharma company dealing with genetics]. It was a real pain, I just wrote down a whole list of numbers, characters and letters, in any old order and crossed each line off at the end of each month. I had no chance of remembering the passwords that I created. In the end I downloaded a password generator !!
Pierre3.
I have posted a link to the two pictures, maybe someone could take a look and let me know what they think.
I will be honest - if I use different user names then I just forget who I am supposed to be, and on what forum !!! My flakey brain now only allows me to remember one user name at any one time !!! If in doubt, just called me "donkey", I'm good with that.
Pierre3.
I am Pierre3 on both forums !!!
Pierre3.
Edited by Gilbertd to show the pictures.
In the little box that has http, etc in it, just copy and paste the imgur link like this https://i.imgur.com/cRYTqd0.jpg
Hi, I thought that Sam was the same on the two forums, and I realised that you were two different user names on the two forums.
Anyway, I have uploaded the images to Imgur, and I can view them, but when I try to attach them, using the small picture icon here, all I get is an http address, but no picture actually uploads when I enter the link address in the picture address box here.
Any instruction anyone ? :( :(
Pierre3.
Hi guys, thanks for your assistance. Did I also reply to Sam on "another Range Rover" forum earlier ?
I will try to upload pictures as it is the only real means of identification.
Hopefully I can get pictures uploaded, although it is a pity that the forum doesn't have an icon to allow straight-forward uploading from a file.
Thanks again.
Pierre3.
Hi, I would like to check out something fairly urgently, if someone can help.
I bought two new rear door handles from Rimmer Bros and they arrived without problem, and fairly cheap at £53 each.
The problem is - one side handle has a plastic hook connected to the back of the handle, but the other handles has nothing. Rimmer Bros tell me that the handles are correct and what I ordered, but I can't see why one handle would have a plastic hook, fixed with a metal pin, and the other handle has nothing at all. I believe that there is something wrong here, and that they should both be the same, one for the left and one for the right.
Rimmer Bros came back and said "Take off the door panels and check the existing fittings". This is kind of stupid as the car is currently parked outside and in daily use.
Could someone perhaps confirm whether the two handles should have the same connection when removed from the vehicle ?
I am attaching a couple of pictures for review.
Oh, sorry, I can't add pictures as there is no option here to upload images, so hopefully someone will know what the back of the rear door handles look like.
Pierre3.
In relation to the original post by Orangebean, about the fitting of the new door handle springs, I would like to ask - is it difficult removing the door inner panel, both front and back ?
I have been slowly tidying up my P38 and I decided, rather than repainting the door handles, to buy new ones, with the exception of the driver's door handle. With the hassle of trying to change the door lock and things on the driver's side door
I have decided to fit the repair kit and repaint this handle. Hopefully I will be able to get it to match the colour and texture of the new handles.
However, I have never tried to get the inner door panels off so I would like to see whether there are any things in particular to watch out for.
I have got spare metal spring clips for the back of the door handle, which some people say breaks, or stretches, when it is levered apart, but is the any other bits that won't refit without damage ?
I am trying to figure out, from diagrams, whether there are some small plastic clips that hold rods to the door handles but I can't find any definitive pictures, video's, or diagrams before I start taking out the handles. I want to try to avoid having a situation where I find that I break a plastic clip and then I can't put the handles back into the door, and I can't lock the vehicle, and also then find that the offending item[s] are no longer available.
Any advice or assistance would be appreciated.
Pierre3.
Hi, thanks for the information.
Is the cable inlet in behind the rear bumper ?
I know that the spare wheel well plugs are waterproof because they are painted with heavy black paint. I have checked the ones in the floor of the wheel well, and also the smaller ones at the very back of the wheel well under the tailgate flap. None of those are leaking.
I only found water had got into the wheel well after ploughing through deep puddles during heavy rain, at 40 mph. The water splashed up to around the bonnet level so there would have been a lot under the vehicle. As I say, the only issue was in the wheel well so something like those grommet holes could be a possibility.
I will have a look next week when I get a chance to look underneath.
Pierre3.
I thought that it may be helpful to anyone having the same issue that I had, namely a leaking rear tailgate or a leak somewhere. I was getting a lot of rain water getting into the spare wheel well, and I couldn't figure out where it was coming from.
I took all the trim, carpets and fittings out of the boot area and left them out for a couple of months, checking after each time it rained to see if any rain had got back in. Each time it rained there was some water still getting in. I carefully cleaned off everything that I could get at in the spare wheel well floor and body work. I used a hair dryer to make sure that the hollow panels were dry, and then I took out things like the tailgate flap and stuffed Vaseline into the screwholes.
I checked and cleaned the sunroof tubes, and made sure that the pipes through the rear arches were not blocked. I also readjusted the body edge, as per the service advice, and took off most off the tailgate seal and reseated it using Vaseline under the seal. The seal appeared to have deformed at the two lower corners but otherwise looked in good condition.
This is the point at which I can image that people start to pull their hair out, and look, as I did, for anything at all that could be a problem - back bumper fixings, rear wiper, rear wiper washer pipe, etc, etc.
I sat and thought about what could be happening, and out of frustration I decided to put my hand in my pocket and buy a new seal - £120 or so with delivery.
And hey, the most obvious answer turns out to be the solution. I used a windscreen non-setting black mastic to put a fine film of seal under the tailgate seal and refitted the new item.I have had the vehicle sitting out in very heavy rain for the last two months and [fingers still crossed] not a drop of rain water.
I think that we all do the obvious and look for a leak somewhere and decide that it must be somewhere unobvious !! In fairness I could have saved a couple of months of sponging up the rain water every time it rained, but I also think that I was reluctant to spent £££'s without being certain.
But I think that my advice now would be - if the leak is not the sunroof then really, really consider just fitting a new tailgate seal.
One thing that I haven't sorted out is water getting in when I drive through a lot of big puddles in heavy rain. I have no problem in heavy rain on a good road surface, but if I drive through a lot of large puddles on the side of the road then water gets in somewhere. I may just get the rear underside undersealed, and see if that sorts it out. At the moment, I just avoid big puddles !!!
Pierre3.
Hi Marty, thanks for your advice. I was thinking the same thing, that it would be a bit messy. The guy that offered me the new handle wants about £75 but then I still have to buy a repair kit, and then take the both handles apart and rebuild one.
I had written that I had thought about buying a set of 4 used handles and fitting repair kits but then I re-read your post where you mention that the cam pin would have to be changed over before changing the lock barrel. So it looks like I need to do a job on my existing handles.
Pierre3.
Hi, I would like to ask the experienced heads who know about the door handles on the P38 a question that doesn't come up on the really good thread posted by Orangebean.
Is it possible to modify a drivers' side front outer door handle from a LHD car to suit a RHD car ?
I am considering buying new handles as mine are quite worn in colour, and the two front handles are quite clunky and not fully closing. I was thinking about taking them out and repainting them with Rust-Oleum Hard Hat gloss black, and fitting repair kits to fix the handle return issue.
However, I thought that it may be quicker and easier to just buy new handles and fit them instead. I know that the passenger door handles, and the passenger front door handles, are all available but the drivers' side handle is no longer available new.
But - I have been offered a new, LHD car drivers' side door handle. So, I wonder whether it is possible to take off the left hand drive fittings and fit the old fitting, with a repair kit, STC3064 and the key barrel, and refit to the car thereby giving me a new door handle.
Pierre3.
I like to be prepared, as they say in the Boy Scouts - although the less said about the Boy Scouts the better !!!!! I'm afraid that they make me think that they had some rather strange habits !!!
I have to get the repair kits, and I need to consider whether to get the original handles resprayed to either the cars' colour, Monte Carlo blue, or matt black similar to the original colour.
I don't especially want to spend the best part of £350 on new handles, although, thinking about it, it might just be quicker and more cost effective than repairing the originals and having them painted. At least, if I buy new items then I know that they will be good for another 20 years, or thereabouts. Mind you, I'm sure that the vehicle will have long been scrapped by then if muppets like that Greta Thunberg keep squealing about global warming.
Again, I would like to ask whether it is difficult to change the drivers' door handle but retain the original lock barrel and/or remote key fob ? I have recently bought a new fob and I certainly don't want to have pay out for another new fob. At least I currently have all original keys and fobs, and I don't want to change that.
Any advice on what to do about the drivers' side handle is gratefully received.
Pierre3.
Many thanks for the information. I may take out the lights and put a swipe of mastic around the seals to ensure that they are watertight. Although I am not convinced that that will solve the issue.
I suppose that rain water running down the back of the vehicle could find its way into the wheel well, though.
Just as well to check though, and tick it off the list !!
Pierre3.
I am just wondering whether there is a separate seal for the rear lights on the P38. I have looked at a German LR parts list [Allbrit.co.uk] but it doesn't show a seal or gasket for the rear lights, it does show the 5mm nuts for the lights but no seal.
Pierre3.
I am just wondering whether there is a separate seal for the rear lights on the P38. I have looked at a German LR parts list [Allbrit.co.uk] but it doesn't show a seal or gasket for the rear lights, it does show the 5mm nuts for the lights but no seal.
Pierre3.
Good point about the light seals. I will have a look and see if they are properly bolted in. I did have a similar problem with a 1983 Mercedes W126 where the rear, red, lights had been changed for nice clear lights, but the original seal had been used as there was a small leak from both sides for a while after I bought the car. Fortunately, it was a quick and easy seal.
Pierre3.