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gordonjcp wrote:

They are indeed Dunlop bags, with Dunlop stamped on both the rubber and plastic bits. But the boxes they come in and the safety and fitting leaflets are all branded Britpart.
a cx mate....had a few of them in fact my first car was a 2400 pallas c matic !

I would say that by looking at the impellers that one would give better circulation than the other or maybe one is a patent part ?

Gilbert is right, its every 3 hours the suspension ecu wakes up and unless parked on DEAD LEVEL ground will think "great lets level this bump out" and lower, 3 hours later it will think it may have been in a mild earthquake and lower one side again, and again after 3 hours.........you get it.

Make sure that when you put her up and down again that the air bags did not "wrap over themselves" as this can be a common thing on non genuine bags when they get a bit older they lose shape and form, look at the bags, they should have a smooth appearance to them if not get them changed asap as you do not want to be stuck on bump stops, if you are going to change them fir dunlops DO NOT be tempted by saving a fiver.

Try the overnight test, if the car is in a safe place just leave a door on the catch if not either get under the passenger seat disconnect the relay lock up leave 9 hours and come back, if its dropped ya got a leak if not its just waking up and leveling, fix ? fit a complete new air ride system (dont go coils.Yuk ) or live with it like us all, if I park mine on the campsite where we go over night which is near level but a field you can actually watch it every 3 hours like its on drugs trying to level ! can be very funny.

My mate had a TD6, 130k already had box (40k) and new turbo (90k) new head unit, I had to borrow it to take my caravan to the site while mine was being MOT'd last year and he always has it full to the top so as I like to way in what I use if I borrow a car I thought easy just fill her back up............after waiting for it to raise (10 minutes driving) I collected the caravan and drove ( the tractor ) to the site, dropped it off and went to collect mine the next day, I filled it up and £25 of diesel later was left thinking..........yes it towed well, yes it is a bit noise than the V8.in the wrong way ! but in my V8 on gas I would have done a bit more running about than I did and cost about £18 on gas ! why diesel then ??? guess its a nice thought to run a diesel.........NOT!
Thing that did strike me was that even though it had only done 40k after a new turbo to me I could hear it whining all the time............I reckon new turbo on way.

Yes mate, fully fitted 1 years warren tee oils etc so I bit the bullet ! I am keeping her anyway, spoke to yet another breaker today and heard more horror stories of L322's the gearbox place girl said that she had worked there for over 3 years and had seen 2 P38's in that time.............1 was mine so I am holding hope ! she said L322's they are seeing about 8 a month 90% rebuilds ao lets hope the P38's last us a !
And including cash and VAT !

Express gearboxes are doing the job.........very good point mate I am calling in today and will remind them of that fact.

Hi everyone, hope all that helped me on the other posts see this as I do appreciative it and thats the reason for this post.

Fitted the first box same day.................everything was done right and she started and as we filled her had drive, excitement took over my girls back! then bang, oil pump blew lost drive felt sick etc etc etc, so sourced a low millage 51k box and as this was Tuesday ordered and it arrived Thursday so as I had now done it out, in, out it seemed easy ! fitted filled and no noises no drive ! now I felt sick so decided to have it diagnosed as I have bad luck but this eats it up !
So into a specialist and they came back as no internal pressure everything fitted correct so I knew I had done my part ok ( relief) and so 2 duff boxes.........so have decided to do what I should have done in the first place and have it re-conned.
They rang me yesterday to say that they had stripped it (my original box) and that it had failed because of oil circulation lack of ( I have only had since may so do not blame me ) again wrong services on a car that caused it to fail by people that use kwik fit like of places.
Anyway box being re-built now and have a good price (£1300) for it, should be back next week I will post when I do, o and that is a cost to me and I know the guys there so any problems on here give me a shout and I will introduce you to them.

Thanks again to all of you that helped, just wanted to be nice and let you know where I am at here as so many forums have people post and never let you know what the outcome was which is rude.

I am in Portsmouth so anyone near me wants a meet (after next week !.I hope !!!) needs help ( I have RSW P38 ) breaks down I am more than happy to help you always.

Hope my old girl is back next week miss her loads however it has pushed me to restore my 740i which has been sat up due to the P38, its an E38 so keep the numbers close a!

its drained mate as fitting a new box to her mine died, guy salmon the dealer said dex2 ! unreal but they never get it right !
so dex 3 for sure then

Doing the box change today, read so many different posts on what oil to use............dex 2 or dex 3 ? Help!
99' 4.6 Thor

Well guys just an update, looks like Tuesday is a possibility that we are doing this job, I will keep you all posted.

Gilbertd wrote:

Maxis are the half dozen really big fuses.

I thought they may be the boys......look like house fuses !
Thanks you again.

Orangebean wrote:

Yes- the under bonnet fuses to start with and initially avoid the Maxi Fuses

dazer2000 wrote:

Do you mean the box under bonnet on right hand side and the ones on the BCEM ? and what is MAXIS ?
Great I will give them a go with the meter, might do it in my mates workshop

That is sounding even better..........95% RF
Can the BCEM be repaired if it does go faulty ?

Gilbertd wrote:

Over on the other site they'll blame just about every type of radio transmitter known to man to cause the receiver to wake up but they use a different frequency to us civilised people in Europe. The fob operates on 433.9MHz but so do numerous other 'momentarily operated short range devices' to give them their correct title. That means wireless doorbells, weather station transmitters, wireless burglar alarms, oil tank level senders, video senders (the return for the remote),etc. All of these should only wake up when needed but unlike most things that stop working when they go faulty, most seem to go on permanent transmit when they go faulty. In saying that, if there is something that transmits every 10 minutes (like a very keen weather station transmitter), every time it transmits the alarm receiver wakes the BeCM up so it sits there drawing 3A for 2 minutes until it goes back to sleep.

Yes I have heard of this, I have thought of trying this as so to eliminate it, I will try this tommorow, I did this on my last P38 and did not stop her draining and then all of a sudden it stopped !

Orangebean wrote:

With the vehicle asleep, start sticking your ammeter across the fuse sockets (not the Maxis) and see which ones are drawing current and how much. There's also the possibility that a neighbour got a new toy (weather station, wireless smoke alarms etc) for Christmas and that's waking your rf receiver so unplugging that might make a difference

Do you mean the box under bonnet on right hand side and the ones on the BCEM ? and what is MAXIS ?

dazer2000 wrote:

Gilbertd wrote:

When you switch the car off it goes out but not completely, it will still be glowing very dimly. It does need to be dark and you may need to let your eyes acclimatise before you can see it. If the BeCM is still awake, it'll be drawing about 3A, once it is sleeping, it should be down to about 20mA (0.02A). The reason why a source of RF will cause the battery to go flat is because the receiver is seeing a signal so keeps the BeCM awake waiting for the correct code (which it never gets) so you've got the 3A drain there all the time.

With everything switched off and the doors all closed (but bonnet open), set your meter on the 10A scale (usually means using different sockets on most cheaper meters). Connect one lead to the battery negative terminal and the other to the battery negative post. Then carefully lift the negative terminal off the post so the connection to the battery is still there but via the meter. The reading you get on the meter will be how much current is being drawn. If around 3A, it should drop as soon as the BeCM goes to sleep, if around 20mA, it already has. If anywhere between these two, something is drawing current.

Cheers mate I am going for a look now

OK just done the sit in test as suggested and your spot on....thank you, I sat inside her ignition on then off and led glowed bright until i turned off the a low dim glow, I locked the doors and sat there for a couple of minutes and yes the dull glow went out so at least I know the BCEM is going to sleep...............yes ?..................
So if that ok ( and hope it is for all the right reasons ) where next ?

Gilbertd wrote:

When you switch the car off it goes out but not completely, it will still be glowing very dimly. It does need to be dark and you may need to let your eyes acclimatise before you can see it. If the BeCM is still awake, it'll be drawing about 3A, once it is sleeping, it should be down to about 20mA (0.02A). The reason why a source of RF will cause the battery to go flat is because the receiver is seeing a signal so keeps the BeCM awake waiting for the correct code (which it never gets) so you've got the 3A drain there all the time.

With everything switched off and the doors all closed (but bonnet open), set your meter on the 10A scale (usually means using different sockets on most cheaper meters). Connect one lead to the battery negative terminal and the other to the battery negative post. Then carefully lift the negative terminal off the post so the connection to the battery is still there but via the meter. The reading you get on the meter will be how much current is being drawn. If around 3A, it should drop as soon as the BeCM goes to sleep, if around 20mA, it already has. If anywhere between these two, something is drawing current.

Cheers mate I am going for a look now

OldShep56 wrote:

All 38s are paranormal happenings!
Glad you made it over here, mate. Having read your posts and seen the answers, you can now see why I told you about this place. None of that 'download and read RAVE' bollocks here.
Yes mate all honest answers mate they talk like me ! thank you bud

dazer2000 wrote:

Gilbertd wrote:

Are there any other, seemingly unconnected, faults that might cause the BeCM to stay awake? Assuming the gearbox is still in there you can check that the BeCM sleeps by sitting in the car in the dark. With everything switched off, the gear position LED will be glowing dimly next to whatever gear it thinks it is in. After 2 minutes of sitting very still with everything switched off, it should go out. That tells you the BeCM has gone to sleep. If it doesn't, something is keeping it active. Do you have a meter so you can check the actual battery drain?

Good idea I did'nt know about the led will try that this evening and post my findings thank you.

Just checked, LED beside the gear selector but go's out as soon as I switch car off ??? any good ???

Hi, my name is Daren and I am lucky to have been introduced to this site.
I am normally flat out but always try and reply.
I am 43 years old and been around cars all of my life since about 4
I am now into bikes as well as cars
Always happy to help others if and when I can and I will never pass a P38 at the side of the road.
Done alot to P38's over the years and always managed to mend them........keep the luck going !
At the moment a few cars and bikes are,
Range Rover P38 4.6 HSE on multipoint LPG
BMW 740i E38 97' 4.4 V8 (not on gas) sorry but its not a or a 5 series
Saab 9-5 Griffin 99' 3.0 V6 turbo petrol
Kawazaki ZZR 1100
Honda CBR F3 600
Chinese cruiser (was a 125 then I bought it ! )
Ex quad owner ( stuck in trafic on a bike ! )
A couple of Zafiras selling and an Audi A4 Tdi
Just so you can see my tastes are very strange and I just love cars and bikes.
I do everything (90%) myself
Believe in servicing everything below spec miles with good products.
Well thats cars and bikes now me,
As I said I am 43 suffer from severe back and shoulder problems (but I keep going !)
I am a fully trained Hypnotherapist and Hypnotist, the 2 are completely the opposite of each other.
My main goal in life is to help others in every way I can and I am now helping people get healthy and targeting weight loss in a healthy way, I lost 7 stone last year ! and I am still fat !!!
As you guessed ( if not bored yet ) I have a huge scene of humor and also do paranormal investigations !
My spelling is so rubbish I have worn out the auto correct !

Great to be here guys and thanks to all that have helped me up to now.