I had an R12 system in an old Citroen XM and it would blow the socks off an R134a system any day of the week.
My car has now been gassed and tracked but I didn’t have time to collect it today. Apparently it’s blowing nice and cold though which is good! Just got to hope it keeps doing so now!
David.
Whilst I await the phone call to tell me to go and fetch the car after the tracking and air con recharge are done I've added everything I've done to the car to a list. It's quite a list!
P38 Work
4 Air springs
Compressor Refurb
Valve Block Refurb
Air Suspension Relay
PAS Pipe
Full service kit
LPG Reducer Refurb Kit
LPG Reducer
Plug Leads
Aux Belt
Both Aux Belt Idlers & Tensioner
Coolant Pipes for throttle body and radiator return
Heater Matrix O Rings
Tailgate Struts
Bonnet Struts
ABS Accumulator
HEVAC Repair Ribbon & Bulbs
2 Lambda Sensors
Wipers
Headlight Wipers
Air Con Condenser
Air Con Drier
Air Con Recharge
Radius arm bushes
Panhard rod bushes front and rear
Steering Damper
Drop Links
Anti Roll Bar bushes
Exhaust - Cats, Centre section and back boxes
Rear axle oil seals
Rear pads due to oil contamination
Rear callipers cleaned and painted
Front and Rear diff oil
New Rubber Mats
Transfer Box Oil
Both gearbox oil cooler pipes
Gearbox Oil Cooler
Genuine LR gearbox filter
Both air con pipes that run along the bulkhead
Plenum Foam on scuttle panel
3 Air Con Pipes
Scuttle Panel Plenum Foam
Steering Box Input Shaft
Steering Box
BECM Repair to resolve central locking issues
Track Rod
Drag Link
2 Lambda Sensors (Bosch this time)
Replacement Amplifier
2 New Subwoofer Speakers fitted to original Enclosure
Grill and headlight trims painted
Tow bar removed, blasted and repainted
4 new Dunlop EAS height sensors
2 new front height sensor heat shields
Tow bar converted to full 13 pin electrics inc split charge
Tracking
Air Con Recharge
Half Leather/Half Wood Steering Wheel
Some of it I've done just to renew old parts, some of it I've done as it's been easier whilst doing something else, and it's probably not all been entirely necessary but as a result I'd go anywhere in it.
I've had the car 3 years now, including buying the car, I reckon the total cost for my 2002 Vogue SE it somewhere between £3-4k.
David.
Marty has been busy sorting everyones central locking by the looks of it, he did mine back in March too.
For some reason the codes transmitted by my fobs weren't the codes stored in the BECM. A quick trip to Marty has the remote locking working for the first time in the 3 years I've owned the car.
David.
They’re a different league.
The L322 is much smoother and is much more car like and precise thanks to it’s rack and pinion steering. The L322 we have here is a 4.4 TDV8 so 313bhp and 700nm of torque. Coupled to the 8 speed ZF gearbox, it’s silky smooth and really quick. When you floor it when towing the caravan or trailer you’re hard pushed to know it’s there.
I drove the L322 back from Fort William the other night, 110 miles of A roads, I wasn’t hanging around, doing 60-70 most of the way and by the time I got home I’d averaged 32.7mpg.
I had a 4.2 Supercharged L322 previously as well and really wish I’d never sold that one but I wouldn’t have either of the Vogue SE’s if I’d kept it.
David.
This is looking great. You’ve got it all knocked out very quickly and have done a really neat job of it!
David.
I’ve just been through an absolute nightmare with EAS sensors and it’s entirely my own fault.
If I can give you one piece of advice, it’s don’t buy anything other then Dunlop sensors. I’ve wasted hours of my life trying to get them to calibrate, £150 on 4 sensors, and an entire tank of LPG with the car sat idling and they just wouldn’t calibrate.
I bought 4 genuine Dunlop sensors, fitted them to the car and it calibrated perfectly the first time.
David.
Cleaned the glass, rubbed some wax into the black plastic trims, put the pollen filter covers back on, removed the dehumidifier from the car, checked the tyre pressures and took it for it’s first run since March to get some LPG and Petrol.
After all the work it’s had during lockdown, it really is driving like a different car now.
Tomorrow is tracking and air con recharge day.
Hmm... I can kinda see the point of them on the Disco 2 as the engine bay is shorter then it is on the P38 which makes changing the coils or leads an utter swine of a job unless you take the manifold off.
The TD5 engine was only developed as the straight 6 was to long to fit the Discovery body whereas it fits the P38 so there’s a lot more room down the back to do the coils/leads on the P38.
Given how few a times you need to change the leads or coils I don’t think it’s worth relocating them personally but I’m sure others may disagree.
David.
You need to paste the link into your message rather then the topic title as the link won’t work.
David.
£250 each isn’t bad but at the moment I’ve got a lot going on so it’s money I’d rather not spend seeing as one of the cars has just had a brand new engine costing over £4000 by the time I’d replaced all the bits and pieces I found and the other car has had a ton of work done to it during lockdown as well.
David.
Looks like there’s a few of us from around the Glasgow area now.
Both of our Vogue SE’s need their headlinings replacing so I’m trying to find someone to do them without having to spend £250 each as I really don’t fancy doing it myself. I guarantee it’s something I’d make a total arse of.
Clive, if you fancy selling a couple I’d do my car properly :)
David.
My one way valve on the rear screen washer is knackered. I’ve just ordered one of these to remove it from the system completely.
Hopefully it’s the same size!
David.
Although the scuttle panel itself was clean, this is the crap that I scraped out from under the pollen filter housings.
You can see the drain now with all the crap that came out of it to the left of the image.
Anyway, I removed all the crap, got the hoover out and gave everything a proper clean up.
And refitted everything with silicon around it to give it all as good a chance as it can have.
The shifting spanner was handy as the rubber kept bouncing out and getting in the silicon.
Amazingly, this car is a 2002 and all of the fixings down there were corroded and horrible, I had to cut slots in the head of the screws in the pollen filter housings to get them out as the heads were almost non existent. On my 1995 breaker which has had no scuttle panel on it and no bonnet on it and has been in bits since 2012 the screws were barely rusty and in perfect condition so I’ve refitted them into my 2002 car.
Looks like LR’s quality of nuts and bolts went downhill massively as the later cars came out.
David.
Water leak found :-D
When I got the car there wasn’t a plenum foam on it so the scuttle was full of crap. I took all the trim off it and replaced it around 12 months ago and hoovered out what I can see but didn’t see the drains underneath the pollen filter housing.
Today I took the pollen filter housings completely out and found the drain on each side of the scuttle choked with leaves and pine needles from the trees. I scraped them out, vacuumed the scuttle panel, and refitted everything whilst sealing it all with a thin bead of silicone.
We had a couple of days or torrential rain last week so I’ve got a feeling the scuttle drains became overwhelmed as they were choked and it ran in through the drivers side pollen filter housing.
The car is now back in the workshop with the dehumidifier in it drying it out. It can sit there for 24hrs until it goes for the tracking and an air con recharge and then it can go back in for the rest of the week so hopefully it’ll dry out quite nicely and I can them get on and finish cleaning it.
David.
Thank you.
Another thing to have a look at. I had that trim off recently to replace the foam under the scuttle panel so I guess it’s possible. I think I’ll go and get a tub of clear silicone in the morning and remove things and start sealing them up.
Another thought...
I put a new plenum foam on my P38 a while back. I wonder if the drains are blocked and in the heavy downpour we had at the start of the week if it’s just overwhelmed the scuttle and come in through the heater vents.
I’ve got two that are on a car I’ve been breaking for years. I’ve no idea if they’re any good though. If you get stuck, let me know and I’ll try and get them off and measure the resistance across the movement to see if they’re any good.
I pulled the drivers side one but didn’t see much in there, it was bone dry. Will have another look tomorrow I think. It’s not rained for a few days up here and has been 20+ degrees so everything is bone dry under there.
I’ll give everything a good soaking with the hose tomorrow and see if I can see any water anywhere.
When you say the pollen filter covers, do you mean the oval cover with a cross point screw at either end or the bottom half of it?