Yes, entry side, but now you got me thinking from where it "sucks" .... it was like soot, not oil.
Will take it apart again and look carefully and the lower part of the air filter box.
I am indeed surprised .... do not know what to say. Will look at it in say a couple months to compare.
Yess, you must be right .... might as well do it at once. Never a rest moment!
However is the switch and valve relief work, I wonder if is only an o-ring problem then ...
Maybe unrelated question is this possible the air filter get soo dirty? What do you believe is the problem here? It had like 9k km ...
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I've brought this up, because I've just changed the oil and the filter was leaking as well.
I thought it came from up high where the valve covers were leaking but no, I've fired her up to make the level and I got a drop immediately rinning down the filter.
I had no time to look well in the region ... can it be the oil switch gasket leaking instead, or both? Which you recommend is an easier one to address?
So with lots of happyiness and cheer, I took apart again the thing, luckily this time the valve covers were not part of the work, so I cut some corners here and there not stripping everything by the book, and managed to do it all in one go and be done in time for going in the afternoon to the LPG check.
BUT
on engine startup, it became very rough running, with rich smell and unstable idle. First time it happens, and I thought it was due to the LPG, after a couple minutes became stable, and running to the LPG place around 10km down the road, no issue at all.
Man connects his thing, and in that moment all hell breaks loose, engine misfires, rough idle, car shaking like a 2cv ... unheard of. Obviously no calibration is possible.
I fish the nano out and I have both O2 sensor with "loss of signal" ... well, might have come their time, at 300k km.
I apologize and excuse myself and promise to return to calibrate with the sensors replaced.
As expected, on the way back home the Rangie works flawless.
I did not took photos of the finished job as it became late and the following day I made the 800km journey to get this Tesla without a single hiccup.
Now I will order the sensors and replace them, clear the trims and see how it goes.
Aerial view of the mess in the valve covers
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The rocker does not look very nice, there is some sludge, the other head looked worse but I forgot to take a photo. Ovbiously this has been not one of the most fortunate engines out there.
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After some more work I've put the covers in place
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As well as the coils and the injectors, plus the pipes
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With trepidation, I assembled all together again, I fired it up and there was no KA-BOOM, wihch means the job looked well done!
Run, get to operating temp, all fine no errors, no misfire, great ... go for drive, but the engine is low on power, so I connect my cable to see the LPG system, I see no errors, but I cannot complete the calibration. So I went to a friend that has an LPG workshop to see if he can do it, but on the way there reflecting on the low power I remember that, in my continous on-off from this job, I had forgotten to swap the old injectors' nozzles on the new injectors ....
Well, this is not exactly "today", but I did owe you guys an update on a major matter in the life with my P38.
For starters, have in mind I have been using it less this year, I got myself a more modern runabout for long fast trips, so the RR has bee relegated to hauling trips and cargo work .. I would assign her also offroad duties, but I feel I will break something and I prefer another vehicle for that, more on that elsewhere.
BUT
Since quite some time I had the feeling that something was "odd", with engine vibrations and a general rough feeling, plus a sporadic nano record of a misfire. I've checked with a friend that has a workshop with specialized equipment and he noted one of the coils was giving a "weak" spark.
Having the coils positioned in a vey handy place, and in my case passing through there all the pipework for the LPG injectors, it was going to be a combo job. I thought it was going to be ideal also to replace the gaskets on the valve covers, which have been leaking oil since forever, and also, why not have some paint work done on them.
Since the above, the entire summer passed and the problem started to get worse, and no way to get my friend free enough to assist, so then, as usual, I decided to take matters in my own hands and do it myself. How hard can it be?
I got first some covers "borrowed" to minimize downtime, and had them sandblasted and powder coated in matt black. Then I got new injectors - after all, the ones there are like 10years and +130k km according to the original invoice, and I did not want to do the job again soon. Then I got some meters of piping, new coils - Bosch as the OE ones, and bits and pieces. All the procurement alone took me weeks ...
The it was a problem of finding the time, which occurred close to pre-xmass. The reason was I had a job for a friend to go get a brand new Tesla 3 in Thessaloniki, and I really did not want to put many miles on a not so good running engine, fear of worsening the situation.
My starting point was this
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So after some reading in the workshop, came time to start taking apart things. Due to some quirk of mine, I did not disconnect the cables for throttle and cruise, so the bunch of bananas would be hanging around these. It was fairly quick to get to this stage, especially since the one that worked there before me left only one top bolt for the coils' bracket .... actually quick no, entire deal was days as I was working on "free time", no more than couple hours a day, sometimes even less.
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The injectors' pipes were very hardened, some really wooden, and a couple had already some hairline cracks, so it was due time. One of the pipes broke as I pulled it, so really was on its last legs.
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Can we usually tell if the V8 idles with a misfire on one cylinder by hand feeling the engine rock?
I do not know by hand feel, but I was feeling something was "odd" and I had a defective coil, with misfire on cil 7 - more on another thread
Usually if the RV8 is in order, nothing is felt ... is very smooth
What a fantastic story ah ah!
Yes, the advice to always watch it for the ignition switch "locking up" ... usually besides popping out as Richard correctly said, the steering lock should go in, and the "key in ignition" sign should go out. When mine plays up, a gentle, and sometimes not to gentle, tap on it makes the trick.
Many a time I was in trouble when the ignition switch remains on ....
I have a compressor and a driver pack in the boot for long trips, but a valve block might be overkill ...
Yesterday I went to the garage to retrieve the queen and once again cranking and not start ... puzzled by the event, i decided to apply Richard's advice and fire up the nano and inserted the EKA, then tried the procedure to no avail, I mean my car is totally "insensible" to any turn of the key that is not opening/closing the car itself. So the manual inserting of the EKA will have to wait another time ....
I thought to attack then the only other thing I could, this is the fuel inertial switch off.
After some acrobatics as I could only open the door a little, enough to loose the seal, I pulled off the panel and I found one of the cables loose in the connector, hence the random activation .... well, once fixed HARD since then I have been using the P38 for two days and multiple starts with no further issues!
I hope I am done .... on to the next thing :-)
Thanks as always, spot on. However, I was not the one that did all this, but my predecessor ... and since I never had an issue, I decided not to wake up anything and not to bother.
In any case, issue solved and have a laugh ...
I woke up the other night at 4AM and remembered that not only in 8 years I never had an issue, but also that on the first cranking I had a feeble rumbling, and then died, and that it was not immo issue since it was not the classic "vrum pof"
I had parked in a spot that I seldom used, but could not be interference since the car would open and close with the fob not a problem.
BUT
It was on a slope and I was in a hurry to get home and did not refuel and ....
well, I went with a jerrycan to the nearby station and dumped 5 liters of the precious liquid and after some insistence it fired up and been in use since.
Lesson learned....
And in any case thanks Richard I went to look into the papers that Marty sent me when he checked the BeCM and found the EKA and will put it through Nano to be coded in, just in case.
And I also saw I got some errors on the 02 sensors and is time for them to get renewed.
Once again, the biggest problem of a P38 is its owner ... present or former!
Thanks!
I've done nothing, but I got myself "blocked" by my own car ... funnily enough, it is the first time in almost 8 years!
I got a "Alarm serial link fault signal too low" ... fob battery is ok, car I used it all day yesterday no probs. Funny is that I have everything disabled in the BeCM, but it still works lol
Now I am going to submerge in reading ... perfect for a rainy cold Sunday afternoon! NOT!
Aragon thanks! I did use this platform and it was great, I managed to do the delivery without too much hassle, and at a very acceptable price.
Thanks again!
What great news! Happyness to both!
Now, once she is wife, now she's the boss .... until now it was more loosey goosey love. Wait until the axe falls ... ah ah
Just kidding!
Best wishes for this new - same as old - life!
Thanks for the tip, will try this next!
Thanks, I've sent you an email with details!
I am also for the starter getting tired, although mine failed from one start to another, no warning sign. Died like a true hero at over 260K km ... my friend the electrician who sorted out mentioned the brushes were totally consumed, one so much that it remained only the spring, and that is why it failed!
The next thing to consider is the crankshaft position sensor, mine did that game for two/three days: start well as cold, once it gets hot engine dies, no hot start. Replaced and never again an issue.
Cover in the back yes .... let me know how you want to do it :-)