Not today but over the last couple of weeks. Back in August I replaced the AC evaporator and all appeared well, but it wasn't..... Now I install domestic AC systems and to be qualified to do that did a full F-Gas course which includes how a system works. A mate did the cut down automotive course which tells you how to do it but not the finer points of why you are doing what you are doing. He gassed it and the pressures didn't look right. If a system is working correctly, it should have shown around 150 psi on the high pressure side and 50 ish on the low side but it was showing low on both sides (like 95 and 15 psi). Normally that would suggest a low charge but as we had just put the correct 1250g of R134A into it, we knew that wasn't the problem. But it was working so leave well alone.
Only it wasn't working, or at least not as it should. After it had been run for 15-20 minutes, the book appeared on the HEVAC and it refused to engage the compressor. Leave it for a few minutes then start it up again and it worked but the low side pipe (the thick one) was covered in ice. It should be cold, but not that cold. Not only that but the compressor seemed to be running all the time. Consulting the course notes this suggested a restriction somewhere. As it is always advised that the receiver dryer should be replaced if the system has been open to the atmosphere or the desiccant will solidify, decided that must be the problem. Both of us missed the obvious in this diagnosis, the dryer is on the high side so a restriction there would affect high side pressure not low side.....
Ordered a receiver dryer, the gas was recovered, and fitted it. Regassed it and it was even worse! Now the high side pressure was still just under 100 psi but the low side, the suction side, was going minus down into a vacuum.
That would suggest a problem with the expansion valve or evaporator. The replacement evaporator had come complete with expansion valve but, due to getting at it being a bit awkward (up against the bulkhead behind the throttle linkage) I'd managed to cross thread the bolt that secures the clamp that holds the pipes on and buggered the thread so had taken the expansion valve off my original evaporator and used that. That had been working perfectly before so it couldn't be that which only left my replacement evaporator. Not wishing to dismantle the dash again, I bought some AC Flush, a cleaning fluid with so many hazard warnings on the container the label is only just big enough for them all. Disconnected the pipes and noticed this.....
So it appears that my receiver dryer really had been shot and the desiccant had been escaping. Cleaned it out, pumped the fluid through the evaporator. A couple of bits of dirt came out along with a lot of green dye and it seemed clear so, after removing the high side (thin) pipe and blowing it clear, put it all back together again. Mate turned up, regassed it, and the pressures were still low so that only left the expansion valve and we figured it must have been damaged by being hit by lumps of desiccant with 100psi behind them. Gas was pumped out yet again and the AC Off button left switched on. A Britpart expansion valve is £65 but a pattern part from an AC specialist company ( https://www.autoairconparts.co.uk/ ) did one for £25, so ordered that. That arrived the next day so took the pipes off again (at this rate I should be able to whistle and they will jump off on their own!), removed the expansion valve, fitted the new one and put it back together yet again. Went over to my mates place and we gassed it for the umpteenth time. This time the pressures were spot on, air at around 4 degrees was coming out of the vents and the Nanocom showed an evaporator temperature varying between 0 and 6 degrees.
The way it works is that if the evaporator temperature is above about 2 degrees, the HEVAC engages the compressor clutch. When it gets down to 0 degrees the clutch disengages and it starts to warm up from the air being drawn through it but as soon as it hits around 6 degrees, the clutch comes in again to bring it down. It does this ALL THE TIME, even if you set the desired temperature to Hi. The AC still works to dehumidify the air and the temperature of the air coming out of the vents is controlled by the blend motors directing air through or around the heater matrix. I suspect the only time the AC doesn't kick in would be if the temperature of the air being drawn in from outside is below zero. So, as well as reminding me of stuff I learnt when I did the course, I've learnt more about how the HEVAC system on a P38 works.
Peterborough, Cambs
- '93 Range Rover Classic 4.2 LSE, sold
- '97 Range Rover 4.0SE, in Oxford Blue with a sort of grey/blue leather interior sold as two is plenty.....
- '96 4.6HSE Ascot - now sold
- '98 4.0SE in Rioja Red
'98 Ex-Greater Manchester Police motorway patrol car, Range Rover P38 4.0, in Chawton white - the everyday car
All running perfectly on LPG
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