Morat wrote:
Gilbertd wrote:
>However, once you get it and start using it, you'll be putting the Elgrand up for sale.
Which one? LOL
Lol!
I will be selling one of my three Elgrands soon... The one I bought for £600 that had already been written off due to someone crashing it, bought it so I could remove it's engine and 4wd transmission to fit into my other one that had a smoky engine and trans with failing TC lockup, also removed the written off car's pop top roof and fitted it to the same one I put the engine in. Done those jobs so now have 2 good Elgrands (one with a pop top roof)
Sorry the late reply, no I didn't get it, had another think and reckoned I already have too much on the go to be taking on something else.
Thought I'd already posted my reply but when I re-opened this web browser page my message was still in edit mode because I hadn't clicked on 'reply'.
I know it's a how long is a piece of string type question but what would you pay for it, how much would you expect to spend doing it up and how much do you reckon it'd be worth done up? Not to win any shows, just with issues mentioned in the listing and whatever you'd expect to need sorting sorted.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/236134692782
Always fancied one, never owned one but have worked on plenty on them. I might enjoy doing one up and picking the brains of those more clued up about them if the result is something worth more than I invested in terms of parts costs in it.
But I don't mind if this is news to others on forum who end up buying it.
Not teaching to suck eggs but if we're both interested in aspects like those you've mentioned we could explore a few ideas about what could be going on...
Another reason the TC might lock up sooner now is because the weather is getting warmer? I don't know much about Rangerover transmissions but some TC's don't lock up until ATF is above a certain temperature. A higher volume of ATF could increase the time to warm it up and if there was any water in it it would have a cooling effect especially when it got up to boiling temp thus delaying it reaching operating temp?
At least up to very high rpms, for a given throttle position if rpms decrease manifold pressure increases, so the engine is under more load (labours a bit harder / makes more torque). There's the 200rpm drop in exhaust pulses but at more load each pulse will be louder?
Can imagine if it had a manual gearbox there would be situations where a certain throttle opening would give one speed in one gear and a different speed in another gear, the same happens with an automatic. Imagine selecting 1st gear and holding throttle to do a steady 10mph on the flat, keep the throttle constant and select 2nd gear.. we'd expect speed to increase. Also with the automatic the TC locking up leads to an increase in coupling efficiency.
Might as well spell the codes out...
P0154 Bank2 pre cat lambda sensor no activity
P1300 Random / multiple misfires
P0308 Misfire cylinder 8
P0306 Misfire cylinder 6
P0161 Bank2 post cat lambda sensor heater circuit problem
P0159 Bank2 post cat lambda sensor slow response
P0158 Bank2 post cat lambda sensor high voltage
The first thing to note is that all the codes except p1300 point to bank 2 (P1300 could point to any combination of cylinders misfiring). There are misfire codes for 2 cylinders, since that's more than 1 cylinder it might cause the P1300 (multiple cylinder misfires) and since we already know of 2 cylinders both on bank 2 misfiring there's no need to think there's a problem on bank1 unless we get other codes pointing to bank1 or lambda sensor readings / fuel trims are bad on bank 1.
The misfires on bank 2 are probably mixture related since some codes point to lambda sensor problems (not just mixture problems).
I'd be checking both lambda sensors on bank 2. My first guess would be that bank 2 post cat sensor is broken internally with its heater circuit shorting to its signal output, this causing a constant high voltage reading on that probe's signal wire, this would directly account for 0161, 0159 and 0158. I've known such short on one lambda sensor to cause problems for other sensor readings, so at a guess it could be that a problem with the post cat sensor on bank 2 is causing a problem with the reading from the pre cat sensor on bank 2, this causing the mixture to go wrong so causing the misfire.
Gilbertd wrote:
I would say that would come under 5.3.1 d(ii), a Spring modified so the suspension is inoperative. See https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/5-axles-wheels-tyres-and-suspension. However, if it is a very old vehicle that never had suspension in the first place, it would still pass (even though it would no longer require an MoT these days).
Thanks, yes I see that now. 5.3.1.d
(d) A spring:
(i) with an unsafe modification
(ii) modified so that the suspension is inoperative
Major
Dangerous
nigelbb wrote:
As I read that if you presented a P38 for an MOT when it was on the bump stops that it would be a "Dangerous" fail & you wouldn't be allowed to drive away from the testing station.
I don't want to detract too much from the thread but what I meant was if bars were fitted in place of springs so it wasn't on the bump stops. In that case you don't have airbags or springs that could be broken but effectively you don't have any suspension either. An equivalent to what I meant might be fitting ultra tough inflexible tungsten or titanium springs.
I reckon 5.3.5 doesn't apply if it isn't presented with air suspension, so you never get as far as reading 5.3.5 b
Though that may beg the question what would happen if the air suspension were removed and it were presented with solid bars instead of springs (so springs would also not apply)? But even if there were nothing prescribed for that situation common sense should prevail?
Sorry if I missed any points.
The fuel pressure regulator doesn't leak any fuel through the vacuum connection when you simply disconnect the pipe but maybe it leaks some fuel when engine vacuum is sucking on it?
With what you've said about petrol getting in oil, got to wonder if an injector is sticking open and putting in too much fuel which sees fuel get past piston rings and into oil. A bad enough fuel leak could maybe also explain the low fuel pressure reading. But if an injector put that much fuel into a cylinder we might expect that cylinder to misfire.
Only one post so far but we've already learned to take you completely seriously hehe.
LPG conversion will add lots of range, with that done could add an LPG flamethrower.
Now about those voodoo dolls and viagra tablets I ordered...
Yes, when I was talking weight distribution and fwd/rwd I did realise that centre of gravity moves a little further to the rear if facing uphill so if we had a car with 50front/50rear balance it might become 52/48 facing uphill (or during acceleration). I don't think that's quite the full picture regards shifting axle weights, at least not if we were talking about cornering and moments of inertia etc, but it probably makes the difference we both thought for axle weights and traction on the hill.
Spinning a wheel on the Audi implies it probably doesn't have pseudo or real LSD, or does it? I suppose being an Audi it will be front end heavy...
4wd has another advantage when its patchy because one axle might be on a slippery patch while the other axle still has good traction.
Obviously the best case is to have 4x4 with diff locks and snow tyres...
I mostly mean which is most likely to have push traction to go up a slippery snowy hill rather than preventing the driven end going sideways. Push traction if the driven end doesn't go sideways.
If only 2wd much might also depend on the front/rear axle weight balance, front wheel drives generally better for traction than rear wheel drive because the front end is usually heavier? But some vehicles have equal front/rear balance so would have equal (or arguably more uphill traction) if rwd compared to fwd?
I said summer versus winter tyres but could also include cheap tyres that tend to have big gaps in tread patterns, I suppose the manufacturers use less rubber if there are big gaps in the tread.
Edit - I mentioned quite a lot of things but assuming all other things such as LSD or no LSD being the same. Some vehicles have pseudo LSD (brakes a spinning driven wheel so acts like an LSD). If we're comparing a 2wd vehicle that has that kind of equipment it should be against an equivalent 4x4 that has that kind of equipment.
I'm not sure if the long topic title will be fully readable on forum users devices so I'll repeat it here...
Which is better in snow, a random hatchback with 4x4 on summer tyres or the 2wd version of the same car on winter tyres?
This always comes up on Elgrand forum whenever there's a bit of snow. I have the 4x4 version(s) and reckon they're better in snow on random tyres than the 2wd version on winter tyres but others disagree.
Is it oil or dirt on the air filter element?
Is it on the entry or exit side of the filter?
I forget if the P38 breathing design has an engine breather (from say a rocker cover) running to near the air filter housing but I don't think they do? If it's oil might wonder if it were pointing to a piston blow-by or breather problem...
I'm too late for the Christmas greetings, hope you all had a good one.
Happy New Year for when it comes to everyone.
I expect there'll have been a lot less transmissions on frequencies likely to interfere with P38 central locking when they were designed?
Can we usually tell if the V8 idles with a misfire on one cylinder by hand feeling the engine rock?
Sorry if it's been mentioned or implied - what's the story with the pictured missing bits of steering column trim? If it can be started with pliers are the ignition barrel and steering lock OK?
Is it OK now Miles?
nigelbb wrote:
There are several Autogas LPG bulk tanks for sale on eBay but £7.5K for this 1,410 litre one is a bit too pricey.
That listing is from Birmingham Autogas, if you site your tank within a certain distance from them they'll supply you with gas at very reasonable price per litre too. The problem for me and most people is that the certain distance is within relatively short range of Birmingham... I contacted them ages ago.