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Joined: Jan 15 2016
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God, I wish I could complain like this. I'd give an eye tooth, if I had one, for the price they go for there, i'd buy two, maybe three, just for spares. If you're lucky, a clunker (with the coil "enhancement") and virtually nothing else working, but good for parts, will run at around 6-7 grand. Driveable and saveable, 7 -12-ish!

Mine was eight and a bit thousand, and I chipped him down from over 12!

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Joined: Jan 06 2016
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That particular one (the VSE), cleaned up and running correctly, with 170k miles would probably have a realistic asking price of somewhere around £4.5k over here and sell for around £4k.
I know of a few Batch 4 VSE's up for sale at the moment all asking in the range of £5500 to £15000 (!)
Perhaps it's time to start buying them up and containering them to the Phillipines.

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lol. As i was reading George's post i thought about that. A forum ran P38 export business to the Philippines. George is the local contact who will sell our ice to the eskimos for a tidy profit and whilst we get rid of the ebay crap to foreign lands, we inevitably drive the domestic market up leaving the only P38's ours, which we then sell for millions. Fiendish!

George, you sir are a genius! lol

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Let's look at this a bit closer shall we, before we get too giddy! :-)

Say we buy our '38 in the UK for 1,500 quid and then spend the same again on shipping and insurance. The vehicle (which must of course be a left hooker) will then stand us at three grand when it hits the docks. Then the fun starts. That lovely Mr Philippine-Customs will immediately hit us for 40% import duty, taking us to 4,200, providing he accepts the vehicle value of 1,500 in the first place. The actual purchase price is irrelevant, so he may decide it's worth more,probably will, and tax accordingly. Note this tax is on both the vehicle value and the shipping + insurance. He then sticks 10% VAT on top of that, bringing us to 4,620 as a minimum, then comes the killer.

This is the Ad Valorem Tax on top of the lot, which runs from 15% to 100% and is based on engine displacement. Bearing in mind they class anything over 1.6L as a 'gas guzzler', I think we can guess where our 4.6 V8 Range Rover's going to get stuck, can't we children? But let's be optimistic and stab at 75% or GBP3,645. This takes us to a nice round eight grand and right slap bang into the normal selling range. We'd probably make more money working at 7-11 for a week. ;)

Add to this several other factors such as you can only import one vehicle at a time, you must have owned it for six months overseas before you can import it, you have to prove it was bought with money made overseas, not here and in addition, you can't then sell it for three years.

All this without even thinking of the hassle of dealing with Philippine custom and import departments (oh yes, you need permission to import even before you start - not automatically forthcoming and I guess they'd question the need to import a 15-20 year old vehicle), let alone getting it registered once here.

Also let's not ignore the nice customs guy at the port who's always wanted a Range Rover as well, and decides that now is as good a time as any to realise his dream. In fact yes, let's ignore that shall we? Otherwise our little head will start to hurt!

I'll stick to mucking around with railways I think

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lol. perhaps i wasn't tongue in cheek enough. Thatchers Britain!

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Or you could just smuggle them in, hidden in a container full of cocaine?

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Orangebean flagged this one up on the 2002 Vogue Restro thread :-

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Land-Rover-Range-Rover-P38-Vogue-SE-Very-Low-Mileage-59k-FSH/352222677323? but is it blue or green

If I weren't so far down the mid-life improvements route on mine that blue beast would be seriously tempting as it ticks all the boxes including LPG. Theoretically bit spendy but loads of miles left at normal servicing schedules so good on a £ per anticipated mile basis. Not stupidly far away too.

I see E-Bay has several low mileage late P38 up at the moment like

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-rover-p38-4-6l-vogue-2001-59000-mile-one-previouse-owner-fsh/132421373056?

and

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-4-4-Vogue-5dr-Automatic-10-months-mot-73-000-only-leather-seats/112668738513?

Seems to make something of an economic nonsense of doing serious mid life work on a car at 2 or 3 times the mileage.

Clive

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blueplasticsoulman wrote:

lol. perhaps i wasn't tongue in cheek enough. Thatchers Britain!

Sorry if it came across wrong. :-)

It was a copy and paste from another forum where we've had this "make a fortune" debate before.

If it was do-able, I'd be a wealthy man now!

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Morat wrote:

Or you could just smuggle them in, hidden in a container full of cocaine?

Given that Mr. Duterte is up for shooting anyone who so much as takes an aspirin, probably not the best plan!