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Got at it again and got it in with a struggle though the side, ended up with less scratches and bruses this time, though it could have been easier but at least the manifold didn't come off (its been off before to sort the throttle heater leaking, and to do the lpg pipework more recently)

At least second time around its fixed the misfire too, though now the exhaust is rattling, as it seems as soon as 1 thing is fixed on it that at least 1 more has to break!

You should be able to narrow down what should be fitted using microcat with the vin lookup? The ones I've used won't do a lookup off of a reg, but will work off the vin. Might need to look at the bags rather than the shocks themselves.

Smiler wrote:

Its an SSD. I shall try the suggestions when I get back from my weekend away visiting the in-laws...
Ah, I'd be less optermistic that being the case. Quite a few i've known to be fine, then you reboot the machine and its gone forever. less well known brands seem more prone to failing like that (one customer we work with decided to rollout a load - Hypertec i think. Within 3 months we had to go back and swap them all out as they started failing en masse and swapping them out for Samsung ones instead). Still no harm in trying though.

Smiler wrote:

Now that's interesting, I have an old hard drive kicking around here that sudddnly stopped 'existing'...

if it still spins your in with a chance, if the motor doesn't feel like its running your less likely to get success.

Its good for retrieving otherwise lost info, but i wouldn't trust the drive with anything important after its done that sort of thing, they have a habbit of doing the same again!

Gilbertd wrote:

I downloaded some software to recover pictures from the memory card from my camera after my ex unplugged it from the USB port without shutting it down. It recovered all bar about 3 from over 400 pictures. It's installed on my desktop computer but I'll fire it up in teh morning and have a look and see which one it was. It had to be paid for but I think it was only 10 Dollars or something like that. The free undelete programs tend to only show you what they can find but not let you recover them.

I've used Piriform Recuva before to restore deleted files - the free version of that did work ok. Paid for version does more, but not what you need.

Though I'd try chkdsk first as Simon suggested above as thats worked when the drive in my Bosses laptop decided it didn't want to boot anymore and wasn't even visible in windows (was so corrupted it caused disk management to freeze when connected) to rescue stuff they wanted off it (and hadn't backed up previously). Think i had to play with the switches to get it to run at boot if I remember rightly.

no10chris wrote:

Why are you taking the manifold off, lift bonnet all the way ( stays off, and fold down factory stays on hinges) you can see all 4 bolts , just slide the coils up and out, I have lpg pipes across mine and still do it that way

Yep - I'm sure you can on a P38, but its proving damn near impossible on a Disco! I cannot get the coil pack to slide between the bulkhead and the bunch of bananas. With great amounts of difficultly i can slide them sideways, but between the struggle to get the bolts out of the bracket (as there isn't enough space to take it out on the bracket complete) and the twisting and turning of the coil to get it to fit though the gap (which is barely big enough to get my hands through) making it bloody difficult!

I've been lying across the engine with a carpet from the boot of a car that i no longer have to pad it out a bit, its still lumpy but thats not the major problem, its the lack of space to work with.

I think its just its way of telling me I brought the wrong LandRover TBH!

blueplasticsoulman wrote:

If you're interested, I also got these

I've gone for those plus found the Bosch coil packs (thanks to the part number posted by Orangebean above) at a reasonable price, so going with them. Changing both as I don't enjoy taking the upper manifold off and have done it too many times already!

Orangebean wrote:

I've put Intermotor on mine. So far so good.
Bosch 0 221 503 407 is the original, if you can find at a good price.
Spec here

Cheers - Not found the Bosch ones on looking as yet, but thats useful to know. Intermotor has come up so may go with those, gives me a couple of options anyway.

Hi

Can anyone recommend a brand of coil packs that are reasonable (or confirm if Delphi ones are any good) please?

Just used a Britpart one to try and fix an annoying misfire on My Disco II (Thor) and its worse than the original one was. (the second one that is, the first one has a misshapen post so a lead doesn't even want to go onto it!).

And no, before anyone asks, I didn't know they were going to send Britpart ones when they were ordered.

Cheers!

Gilbertd wrote:

Nope, symptoms are different though. Switch it on and the display lights up but shows nothing (in fact, it looks like the LCD display has leaked) and no sound whatsoever, not even a click from powering it up. I've been over it with an LED light and jewellers eye glass looking for any dry joints and found nothing so as the cost of sending it to Clarion is less than a worker from eBay, I might as well do that. I've got a Pioneer DAB unit that I could put in it but that would involve making up the attenuators as it has door amps in it and would lose the steering wheel controls so original would be better.

From your thread on the oil pressure relief valve O ring leak, I suspect that's where this one is leaking from too. Very wet around the front of the engine with a drip hanging off the underside of the filter. Looking at the MoT history for it, oil leak from the front of the engine has been an advisory for at least the last 5 years.

That same leak (where it runs down the filter) on mine was the oil pressure switch. was hard to determine exactly where it was coming from as the entire area had become covered in oil (think the PO either didn't notice it or just kept topping up the oil)

Morat wrote:

That's a kind offer but we're going via Hull... which makes it a bit of a detour!!
(but does leave a bit of time on Sunday if anywhere is open nearby)
ASH does show on their website that they have a trade counter at WF14 8NA ? And its open tomorrow till 2pm?

Lpgc wrote:

The concept of charging a different rate for electricity depending on time of day has been fairly mainstream since 'Economy7'. I'm probably a bit young at 47 to have been directly affected but over the years governments and various energy firms have tried to push some implausible schemes on the public including Economy7, 'Come home to a real coal fire', 'Heat electric', 'Save it', etc. But I was under the belief smart meters were a necessity of the solar panel electric sell back to grid scheme, and solar panels partly due to the Kyoto Agreement. Another one of those types of agreements UK governments sign up to and then stick to when other country governments sign up but don't stick to the agreement unless it works in their countries interests. I remember when coke (from coal) was seen as the way forward - It did improve air quality in a lot of areas but too bad for those living near coking plants lol.. 7 Miles from me there was a coking plant and when the wind was in the wrong direction, the plant working in a certain way, it stunk from that distance. When I first started driving and went anywhere near it I'd put my car heater on recirc (Cortina, no aircon). All this leccy has to be made somewhere and (as Gilbert mentioned) it has to be shifted via better electrical infrastructure than we currently have...

Simon

The thing is with the smart meter ideas it would tie into several different rates throughout the day - if you've ever experienced economy 10 you will know this is likely to be more hassle than benefit. I'm on Economy 7 here due to no mains gas, thats fairly simple (although its still complicated enough for Scottish power to completely balls it up...) My mates flat was on economy 10 , every time the weather started to turn cold and you wanted the heating on (storage heaters again as no gas to the property) it was a gamble when setting them if they would work or not, and if not he had to get on the phone to Eon to get them to come and sort it out. After the 3rd set of meters to the 3 flats they swapped them all for Economy 7 ones.

From what he was told the economy 10 meters have 4 different rates on them, which are switched on by a radio signal? either way this seemed to be a very unreliable way of doing it going by the amount of visits he had to have to sort it out.

davew wrote:

Gilbertd: Could your place of work not 'just' offer a pre-payment type meter for your Leafy colleague/s ? ( I couid also suggest her keeping a petrol generator there, that should also prove popular..)

I have noted that lots of folks have been attracted to Electric/Hybrid cars because of reduced "Road Tax" (and/or 'congestion charges')... and then seem displeased when I say, yes, for the moment. And are we all supposed to believe that the Government will actually stand by and watch petrol 'duties' simply evaporate? (Sorry).

Politicians are universally clueless about cars... Michael Gove's announcement that we won't have ICE after 2040 is an absurd 'Crowd Pleaser'
(Even thoufg the French started this particular rumour.....) Pretty sure we won't have Gove in office much longer either, though....)

Really want to 'Save The Planet' Michael ? Then ensure cars are designed to last 200K miles in the first case......

To be fair they are clueless about a lot of things - Look at the end to end encryption nonsense they keep spouting, whilst I suspect the majority of them wouldn't know the difference between end to end encryption and a cheese sandwich.

Gilbertd wrote:

There was a recent article in the Institute of Engineering and Technology magazine that said that if the takeup of electric cars goes at even 50% of the rate some people are predicting, the UK power infrastructure will collapse by 2022. That isn't all that far away either, only 5 years time.

What do you think the whole smart meter program is actually about - Its how to enable them to charge more for electric at peak demand.

Just be aware that the gorilla glue does expand a bit as it goes off (think expanding foam but on a smaller scale) - A trial on something not required might be an idea first.

Gilbertd wrote:

How am I supposed to spray anything when there's a windscreen in the way? It needs doing in one hit, get some glue in there, then clamp everything down and wait for it to go off. How long I have to wait isn't important as long as it's gone off before I take the clamp off.

I've used Gorilla glue http://www.screwfix.com/p/gorilla-glue-115ml/54593 for sticking awkward bits of trim back together, I think blueplasticsoulman thinks your looking to stick the insert back down, rather than stick the covering back to the dashboard. They had 3 packs of Gorilla Glue in Costco if you go anywhere near one and can go in there (or know someone who has a card) for about £12 last time I was in there.

Tiger seal would probably stick it if you could get it in the right place, I find its good for making a mess with if your not careful though, and suspect the gun used to put it in would make it rather clumsy. The smaller bottle I think should be able to get right down in the gap so you can just squirt it in there and clamp it.

If you need more tiger seal Amazon have it on sale at £4.15 at the minute, which is far cheaper than it usually is. (seems a shame to waste a full tube for such a little job thats barely going to use any of it, unless you can find another use for it). I've got a pair of sunroofs to fix so have just brought some hoping that will sort it for a few years.

DevonP38 wrote:

Thanks for all the advice guys.

I popped a bulb in earlier.. and guess what? It works! So its obviously a dodgy connection somewhere.
I'll see if it stops working again, if it does i'll run in a new wire.

I've had it before with the festoon type bulb that they differ in length slightly - I don't think they are supposed to, but some are as much as 2mm shorter than others. It may be that the clip isn't making as good contact as it should be? Or possibly just a poorly made bulb and the flash was it blowing the filament?

GeorgeB wrote:

Gilbertd wrote:

Or in George's case, get his man to make up a set.......

Think I better do that myself if I want better than +-3inch accuracy!

Is his tool of choice an Axe?

Gilbertd wrote:

For quite a number of years, Vauxhall would supply a car ready fitted with an LPG system, straight from the showroom and with full manufacturers warranty. Many owners were perfectly happy with these and had no problems. The problems came much later, by which time the one employee at the main dealers who had been on the course and knew how to service the gas system had left or retired, nobody else knew anything about it and it never got serviced. The fact that many of these systems continued to run quite happily for 100-150,000 miles with no maintenance whatsoever is testament to the fact that a properly installed LPG system is as, if not more, reliable than a petrol or diesel fuel system. The problem is that once these cars did start to suffer problems (due entirely to the lack of maintenance), coupled with the dire standards of many aftermarket systems, the old wives tales got around about how unreliable LPG systems are and demand fell until Vauxhall decided to drop the option.

Vauxhall weren't alone, Ford, LDV and Mitsubishi (and Volvo too I believe) all also offered an LPG option. All of them did the same as Vauxhall had done though and rather than fit a readily available retrofit kit that would be understood and could be serviced by just about anyone in the LPG trade, they went to a manufacturer and had a bespoke system designed specifically for them. The problems then came because information and spares for the systems were extremely difficult to obtain. The biggest threat to LPG conversions is direct injection engines which are far more difficult to convert than conventional port injection engines.

Rover did some as well with some Landi Renzo kits, though the same thing applied with the knowledge becoming lost as staff moved onwards. The MOT tester who lived a couple of doors away from me used to work for Rover before they disappeared, and he had stated they were told you had to be CORGI registered to touch anything to do with it. More obvious misinformation there just showing the issues that LPG hits.

On the direct injection side KME it appears have an option now, though if its any good at the present time is another matter. Hopefully it may end up going further than the previous efforts have managed.

Aragorn wrote:

holland really loves its EV's at the moment, the tax breaks are so severe all the cabbys are running around in Teslas...

I have an EV, and tbh its really quiet nice. You need to drive one to experience it. Not a silly hybrid thing either, full electric no combustion engine at all.

Theres lots of nonsense spouted about them, including the comments above about fires. We forget that we're all already driving around in cars with tens of litres of readily combustible petrol onboard. A lithium ion battery is no more dangerous, and infact probably MORE robust with the design of modern lithium packs. Theres also less energy in your typical LI pack than there is in your typical car fuel tank...

It makes sense as a propulsion system. The power delivery is seriously impressive, its smooth, its quiet, effortless torque and your always got maximum power on tap with instant throttle response. If you want to clean up the carbon emissions of ICE cars, you need people to buy millions of new cars. If you want to clean up the carbon emissions of an EV, you need to replace the power generation with cleaner options. The latter is happening anyway and growing all the time, thus the EV gets cleaner over its lifetime, and the ICE gets dirtier.

It also charges overnight, and is full in the morning ready to go. No need to visit a fuel station or stand around in queues. Now granted, most are range limited and that causes issues for longer trips, but that will improve. Mine will do about 70-80miles on a charge. But that does all my commuting without issue, theres a charge point at work as well, so its full when i leave. Its a bit marginal if i visit my folks, especially in the winter, but i'll either just plug it in when i get there, or take the petrol car instead on the longer journeys. Its also costs about 3p a mile in electricity. The fuel savings are so large its paying for half the car.

Hydrogen is a waste of time, Its only being tabled because it allows the oil companies to continue their model of charging you to pump fuel into your car, and my the car manufacturers as it can be burned in a combustion engine. The energy involved in producing the hydrogen is bonkers and it makes no sense at all from an environmental POV. we might as well just keep burning petrol.

I'm thinking more the risk fires wise is the manufacturing a few years down the line once the usual wear and tear has set in - From what i've seen of phones/laptops etc they can't get the batteries right on those with heavy use, they fail far too quickly, thats without something else causing the Vehicle itself (not the battery initally) to catch fire which then spreads to the battery etc. Probabbly far worse than the results of any conventional fuel espically if it was in a tunnel/enclosed car park or similar where the dense smoke generated from those kind of batteries would be a significent hazard.

The biggest problem with battery power is that there is a limit to the amount of lithium available to make batteries from - the battery tech needs to come on somewhat to make it more practical for me (charging for hours is not an option given you can never guarantee the availability of charging points etc as well).

Hydrogen wise i think they are trying to cater to fuel cell use, not ICE. But the production issue is obviously the one thing that needs to be overcome (if its even possible to do so, as you say the energy or electricity used to make it from water is not efficient at present)