Crazy prices but not to be unexpected for low mileage examples?

Even if I was very well off and really fancied a P38 the condition of the body, chassis and interior rather than the drivetrain would be more important than mileage... Mileage will affect the drivetrain sometimes in ways that are not easily evident but the proof is in the pudding with the bits I mentioned while an all new or rebuilt and good as new drivetrain can be had for a fraction of that figure. *Depending on how much I was going to spend - Spend a little and the priorities shift towards the drivetrain, spend a lot and the priorities shift toward the body and interior.

I've known mates pay over the odds for low mileage cars even when they've seen other examples with a bit more mileage that look and drive like they're fresher than the one they bought, never made sense to me.

Thanks for your very kind offer Dave, it's not something I intend on having a mess with just yet so I won't take you up on that.. Thanks again though.

I used to buy mags such as 'Fast Car' back in the late 80's early 90's, back then there seemed to be a few firms making big bore and/or long stroke versions of various engines including RV8's. At a time when the 3.9 might have been the biggest OEM RV8 some firms were making a 5L aftermarket version... Am I right in saying that one such firm's re-design of the RV8 which was a 4.6L version was adopted by LR for the now familiar OEM 4.6 ?

I miss the old mags like Fast Car, back then it was the owners modding their own cars and explaining in detail what they'd done to their cars. Just a few years later it all changed, there'd be similar stories but it wasn't the owners modding their own cars anymore, instead it became all about lads (some of whom had probably never wielded a spanner) paying firms loads of money to mod their cars, no technical write-ups because even the owners didn't know what these firms had actually done, firms secretive about their mods. There'd be stories about lads paying firm X £5000 to get 300bhp out of their RS Turbo, which then worked for a month before blowing up, so same lad would go back to firm X and pay them another £5k to get 320bhp out of their RS Turbo which would last another month before blowing up. Seemed crazy that these lads didn't insist on a warranty but were happy to pay firm X to experiment.

Maybe this one suffers the drained battery problem or has in the past, not something that came up in conversation with the owner.
Surprised the owner hasn't joined this forum, seemed really interested in joining and had a few issues that I told him people here could help him sort out, battery drain would be another one.
Maybe he's joined in the meantime so will now see this bumped thread and say hello...

Bolt wrote:

Errrrr......Just what heater pipes run the full length of the car?

None on a P38... I started this thread when my Nissan Elgrand engine seized while on holiday and wondered if it'd be a good idea to pay any Rangerover owners to come with a trailer to save me, been keeping the thread updated with my Elgrand woes since. I suppose it does add a bit of context to the forum... other vehicles besides Rangerovers have their problems too ;-)

Changed that rear wheel bearing and been to Scotland since with the touring caravan for a few days clocking up another 700 miles towing and 1200 miles total (I like to look around unfamiliar areas). All quiet at the back end now but now seems the front OSF wheel bearing is on it's way out so that'll be my next job after I've sussed a slight coolant loss - reckon either a weak rad cap or a leak from one of the heater pipes that runs under the full length of the car, the spring clips where short sections of rubber pipe joins metal pipes are corroded, probably replace them with J clips. Went up via A1 Scotch Corner and came back down via the M6. Even in Scotland I see the odd car I converted to LPG.

I'm looking forward to reading more about this!

Only 2 hard working man made objects have been known to withstand 20 years wear and tear and still work like new... Gilbert's P38 and Trigger's Brush ;-)

Thanks Gilbert, have to see if I get time to digest the IVA stuff later.. Not being lazy but do you have a short answer for what the Elgrand can tow / what Bobby's take on it is likely to be if I get pulled (besides the subtracting the numbers on the plate method you described)? Fixed a few LPG issues on cars and a C class Yank RV today and now changing that rear wheel bearing I've been going on about. Half done now as long as putting the new one in goes smoothly.. Getting the drive plate off the hub is proving a bugger but is half way out now, getting the hub off the arm was a bugger before doing this bit. New bearing getting cool in the chest freezer for when I'm ready, wish I was as cool I've got a right sweat on.

Edit 1930... Bolx just realised I should've warmed the new hub bearing and cooled the driveplate lol.. Anyway, managed to split drive the plate from the old hub bearing, smash the old hub bearing up and get it's shells off the drive plate. Cleaned up the driveshaft spline (was a problem with it binding in the old bearing on removal). just waiting for the drive plate to cool. Seems the handbrake cable was attached to the drum brake actuator with a pin with circlips at each end, I was surprised it fell to bits on removal, seems because there are no grooves for the circlips in the pin. Will try replacing the pin with a cut down M6 bolt and nut.

Edit AM 23/8.. Got it done last night, all quiet now.

Gilbertd wrote:

Under the bonnet or on a door jamb you should have a plate or sticker. It will have 4 figures on it, these being (in order) front axle max weight, rear axle max weight, gross vehicle weight and gross train weight. The last one minus the third one will give the maximum trailer weight it is cerified to tow. If the plate doesn't exist, find out the vehicle weight and go on the recommended 80% of that as a max trailer weight.

I haven't looked at the plate yet. It will have been over 10 years old when imported so just needed a fog light and MOT not an IVA, if it doesn't have the plate is the recommended 80% also a hard/legal rule or something that can be ignored at owners risk physically and legally? Week after next I'll be taking the caravan to Scotland and past some apparently often staffed police weighbridge spots where others towing with Elgrands have already been pulled but they were only towing small lightweight trailers so got away with it anyway. I'll be at least pushing the limits for any kind of towing limit for an Elgrand so best case scenario for me would be if there is no hard rule/legal limit for towing with the import, next best case scenario would be if it is a very grey area.

Late reply, forgot to track the topic even after I'd asked questions, was on holiday that's my excuse. On the campsite there was a Unimog 6x6 kitted out as a campervan, German number plates.

There was a battery in the usual place besides the additional one.

Quite a few years ago I sold a DIY LPG conversion kit for this Autobiography.

The current owner recently bought it from a guy called Karl. I'm not sure if Karl was the owner I sold the DIY kit to or if the side vents (from an L322?) were fitted last time I saw it (when I calibrated the DIY install). The current owner reckons it's been stood a year with a HG problem, he's had a 'new' engine fitted and came here today for me to check it all over (wasn't confident the engine fitter had put the LPG system back on properly). I found the calibration was still spot on, only slight issue was someone had got wires to 2 LPG injectors mixed up which was causing a momentary 2 cylinder misfire when switching between fuels.

Still looks good! I wonder if anyone here knows this car or the previous owner? I advised the current owner to join this forum.

Someone fitted a pressure gauge to the air suspension.

The owner won't care that the reg number is visible

Extremely tidy condition all round. Immaculate and original(?) sheepskin rugs in the rear, I didn't take a pic though.

I do have a record of fitting a new LPG ECU on this install shortly after the DIY conversion... The owner had jet washed the original LPG ECU, I can remember finding it full of water! Must have removed the ECU box top cover when jet-washing, Thor so the LPG ECU is fitted where a Gems ECU would be.

gordonjcp wrote:

Someone set up an account apparently as RRTH years ago when this site started first. I emailed him at the time and he says it wasn't him, which might or might not be the case (it was registered from an IP somewhere in the US, but that's about all I know), and I locked it to prevent abuse. It can easily be unlocked, if he asks. If he wants to join the site - or LLT for that matter - then he'd be just as much a welcome and valued member of the rrpub community as anyone else.

Awww... I might have registered an account under the name RRTH here just to see the reactions it got lol. I'd have admitted it was me after a day or two ;-)

Heavy duty bit of kit!

On the other subject - why might I have been banned from the other forum when I haven't posted except to say hello?

Message I get when trying to access the other site...

Oops! We ran into some problems.
You have been banned for the following reason: Spam. Please contact the administrator if this was done in error..

Huh? I only ever posted once to say 'Hello new member here' lol

Link?

Pleased for you Mazz. Like Morat says Tom would be very welcome to join this forum, would suggest it to him.

I went to school with the vending machine guy, year younger than me, I think he thought vending machines would be an easy life / money lol.
You've been around a bit Bolt... maybe it's you being chased by an agency bringing this surveillance upon us ;-)

Thanks for all the tips / advice. I did realise the need for a battery and about side loading the mower bearing, thought about a CV perhaps from a steering joint to turn a pulley and usual belts between the pulley and alternators.

Looks like Gilbert's under surveillance too... Dunno whether to blame davew or someone here with one or two Russian ex's (ahem) for bringing this attention upon us lol.

Maybe a lot of digging out of the pond etc there Gilbert.. Pity it isn't 1986 or you could've got job centres to send you some unemployed youths as they did for digging canals out.. Probably a few takers too, 'work experience in France' sounds fun.

As a kid I made a wind turbine (first with mecano blades then with thermoplastic got from school) to turn an electric motor direct drive with a diode to charge a 6v lead/acid bike battery I found at the local tip and partly revived. It did charge when it was very windy, powered bulbs in the summer house that used to be at the bottom of the garden.

I'm sweating now, just found this image online..

It's only a bloody satellite pic of where I am so it seems MI5 are monitoring me too, for what reason I don't know. Think I'd better move to San Francisco too! But I can't quite remember the rest of the advice.. If you're going to San Francisco be sure to wear (what was it?), jeans maybe, probably something to help blend in with the general population lol. And I'll need a RangeRover to use as a post apocalypse vehicle.