The one thing I have found that seems to make under the bonnet less than a rat's des res is WD40. I had a rat problem but none since liberally spraying WD around. So it works with Manila rats but no guarantee with Spanish ones!
Nope, we don't meet in the wilds of Swindon, just here in Manila...
Where their Land Rovers are upside down.
Or small.
Eight, not bad for a first meet.
One of the guys was getting a set of carpet runners delivered, so I had to ask
Next meet, delivered.
And fitted, Colour isn't as far away as the photo shows.
Next meet included Land Rover Club Philippines. One hundred and many vehicles. Someone should have told the restaurant!
These aren't my pics...
Ooh, those ZUs look good there!
Then there was one I couldn't make...
But i like the photo.
Great fun and the banter is typical, revolving around key-fobs, pros and cons of EAS, whose broke this week, the usual.
A pal of mine here, who runs a Eurocar centric garage and owns a '38 says, quite rightly, "There are some people who really shouldn't own a Range Rover." All the guys I know definitely should! Except those still on coils. :-)
There's another coming up later this month, I'll be making that one.
Had an SMS from a pal today who has a '95 4.0L. Same problem and fault code.
Like buses, nothing, then two come at once!
Oh, and it's a P38, there's no 100% sure!
Lpgc wrote:
It'd be the first I'd heard of such problem too. I only ask because on forum there are people talking about rebuilding ABS valve blocks that have gone wrong, so I wondered since they go wrong if they ever go wrong in a way that causes that kind of thing. I suppose the valve blocks are made in such a way to be fail safe even if valves go wrong in the same way as solenoid packs for auto gearboxes.
Don't know about fail-safe, the ones I know of here failed very un-safe! However Richard has a point about high ambient temperature affecting things with us in hotter climes. What I do know is that all the o-rings in the modulator, whilst not quite as buggered as the EAS valve block, certainly weren't at their best, and the tiny filter was a bit mucky. So whilst I was replacing the washers, doing the rest seemed a no-brainer, and the kit came with full replacements anyway.
Hopefully, I'll never need to go back in there again.
Interestingly, despite mine being a '95 and the modulator washers being (then) plastic, the Nanocom tells me I've four wheel traction control. However, I put this down to one of the very early car v Nanocom aberrations.
The problem is that someone has an issue and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Then become either cynical or a true believer.
I've had a slipped liner and a destroyed engine. Only one in thousands of miles of P38 ownership.Yet folk believe it is a truth. It will happen to them. Despite my experience, I sleep easy.
I replaced my brake modulator washers with stainless, as part of a full brake overhaul. The plastic washers were in one piece, but broke under finger pressure during removal. Who knows how long they would have lasted undisturbed, 5 minutes,15 years?. Yet some people poo-poo this as an issue. I know of two failures in the Philippines (high percentage, as we only managed to get ten '38s together). Fortunately, both were at low speed, no damage to anything.. Strip down of the modulators had lots of broken plastic in there.
One issue may, rarely, raise it's head, but brings you to a stop. The other one is proven and, unfortunately, doesn't bring you to a stop.
Richard will know when they stopped plastic. 1997?
OldShep56 wrote:
and that comment makes me wish I had never sold my last one!! It was a cracking motor. The debate was whether to spend £15k on a Sport or £5k >on doing a makeover on the 38.
That's ten grand of beer money for a no-brainer! :-)
oilmagnet477 wrote:
Can't disagree on how agricultural the classic now feels - and I've had and rebuilt 3 Series 3s on new chassis so I know what agricultural feels like.
The first P38 I looked at before I bought the one I did was a Jap import with 50k miles and a 4.6. I was seriously underwhelmed by the ride and found, on return to the garage who were selling it, that it had been put on springs.
The air ride is what makes the P38 so good for me - sure it is far from a perfect vehicle but it feels like they took all the experience of building the classic for 25 years and thought "how do we make it better, without losing the underlying DNA". The L322 and beyond have moved too far in the direction of Chelsea tractor for me and have suffered because of it - I guess the sales figures would dispute this from LR's perspective but if I ever fall out of love with the P38, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't replace it with a later model.
Yup, I thought I'd made a huge mistake. It drove like crap.
First job was 20" wheels to 16", with appropriate tyres, second was to reinstate air.
Then I had a '38!
Good job you found it under overhaul.
My UK '38 (like Richard's) ex-GMP 4.0L started with a delicate tapping noise when hot. Let go on the way back from my mum's funeral. Stuffed No. 7 through the inside of the block with the delicate sound like glass breaking, No mess on the road though!
Tear down showed the slipped liner.
Since then a bit paranoid, but the '95 4.6 is whisper quiet.
Bloody GMP! :-)
Hmmm, Plus Gas. Remember the smell.
Can't get it here. Fortunately, none of my fastenings have needed it, due to lack of salt.
Funny but when I ran a Series 2A as a daily, including towing heavy horseboxes around the UK, I was staggeringly underwhelmed when a mate lent me his 3.5L Classic for the weekend.
Yes, it had the V8, which obviously gave it a bit more poke over the 2 1/4, but, to be honest, I just didn't, "get it".
A few years later, we had one as a company car, a soft dash. Again, I drove it and wondered what the fuss was all about. I still had my 2A and would drive that just as happily.
A few of years after, I sold the 2A and bought my first '38. Then I got it!
Although stayed down and dirty with an early 2.5 90 as well. Loved driving them both.
Maybe it's like my Dad who told me nothing about his war, but did with his grandson. Skip a generation!
I like the look of the classic, but sorry, I'm stuck in a niche and, hopefully, won't come out!
New sensor fitted, three hour test run, no repetition of the fault.
Little update.
We now have a P38 meet every couple of months, so far 10 is the most we've gathered.
One of the guys found himself with no brakes. Fortunately, he was manoeuvring, so no speed involved.
Took the modulator apart to find the washers were in little pieces. So yeah, it;'s worth doing the job for you early owners..
EAS? We put mine back to air over two days.
Cheers Richard.
Had the nano on it and it ran up temperature smoothly but stopped at 90. The engine didn't cut but the fault showed up again.
Rang a pal who has a garage (and a P38) and he fired me a new sensor over. It's a bit late for a test run, but it ran up to 97 at idle before stabilising. I'm assuming the other one was causing the "falling temperature" fault as the engine management wasn't seeing the rise it expected?
Anyway it looks like a BMW part, No. VNE39090 iif that's of any use. I'll report back after a test run tomorrow morning.
Also fitted a new brake accumulator today, so that's the last link in the brake chain complete.
Coolant temperature sensor - falling temperature fault
It's intermittent, well it would be wouldn't it! When I've got all the kit ready, it wont replicate.
Sensor replacement or anywhere else to look?
Gilbertd wrote:
What colour interior as George in the Philippines needs various interior trim plastics.
Well remembered! Thanks.
Can't remember the damned official name of the colour now! It'll come to me.
A spot of CRAFT.
RutlandRover wrote:
GeorgeB wrote:
Yes, all of them arrived and departed under their own steam. Impressive huh?
Except the one that arrived under a Toyota diesel cloud :P
Got to admit, I'm no DERV lover but the swap looked factory. He said it was fairly straightforward as well.
Only issue is the V8 autobox linked to it but, as he says, once you get used to it and it's rolling, it's not a major problem.
RutlandRover wrote:
Is this guy one of the white ones at the end?
Yup, Gucci, that's the guy that organised the meet.
Yes, all of them arrived and departed under their own steam. Impressive huh?
The next one needs beer 😊
Had a little get together...
Eight fully functional '38s in the Philippines! Never thought I'd see the day.
One has a Toyota diesel fitted. All gauges and functions working. Just a little box between the engine and BECM and everything talks.
Oh, and happy Christmas all. :-)
And to you, yours and all the rest on here!