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Morat wrote:

And the troll is revealed :)

Very 'big' of you to admit that Morat ! (smiley face etc etc)....

Whilst I understand that to an extent Richard I mean get a grip on Climate Change ......

We will all see who has 'the last laugh' eventually (and really I don't believe that it is those who think taking the 'p' out of a topic provides a solution..)

FFS Lpgc !! Not sure if I prefer your directly agressive stuff or Morat's preferred/usual _passive aggressive _style.... !

Either way you are a pair of totally clueless tossers ("Wink") !! Now that's 'hilarious', don't you both agree ?

Incidentally I am very familiar with gallows humour, smileys. etc of course
Oh, What's that Morat you 'were just using sarcasm now instead' ?......

Get a Grip Guys !

Anyway... did you even look at that web site mad-as posted up ? Perhaps that is more to your liking..? eg. "it's snowing so global warming does not exist & etc....".

Then you will probably enjoy the whole thing then.......

https://9nrane41lq4966uwmljcfggv-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/Contract-for-the-Web-1.pdf

Rumor is that the main 'transgressors' present (eg. FaceBook) responded with "Relax, it's just words...." too !

Morat wrote:

Well, it's got to happen one way or another. IMO being first just means we're ready first, and possibly more prepared to mitigate the issues that will occur if/when others lag behind. We're not going to be as badly affected as some South Sea Islanders, but we might end up with London being flooded out. Possibly a good thing ;)

You were doing fine there Morat - until you added the 'humorous' bit about folks dying.....

Lpgc wrote:

What do we think to the prospect of the UK going carbon neutral by 2030?

Zero Lpgc, that's the point ..... On their own any country can say "we AIM to go Carbon Neutral by 20XX" .... but what does that mean if they just buy all their stuff from other countries instead... ie. other countries who really don't care either way ? All they did was shove the 'Carbon Problem' elsewhere. It's similar to the plan to convert everyne to EVs... but then not build enough Reactors to provide enough of this "C02-free energy"...... !!

mad-as wrote:

the cure for climate alarm ism listen to this davew scroll down to sound of music pic

Interesting find 'mad-as'; Too bad Tony -the author- uses 'worse science' to debunk what he claims is 'bad science'.... and I gave up when he claimed that the CO2 from folks would dissolve the coral in their aquariums etc.... (Frankly I was also dissapointed Julie Andrews did not sing on it - as I would have preferrred to lsten to that....!! ) Does he have another web-page somewhere where he 'debunks' the Moon Landings too ?

Of course his kind of 'blatant selecticism' works the other way too: In that Lotus link above they indicate "you can charge the batteries in 9 minutes or to 80% in 6": Similarly their "can charge/discharge 1000 times with only a 10% drop in capacity" claim. Of course these cars are over £2m each (and so can use very advanced technologies) but it won't stop some twerp saying something like " 'soon' all battery packs will be able to do this " & etc..... Yes, it will all 'trickle down' (!) to lesser EVs - eventually

ie. It is always dangerous/misleading to use extremes to 'prove' averages - of course... but I don't think Tony and his patrons really care about that !

Following on from EV Supercars (to an extent) form above this was an interesting Headline:

https://fossbytes.com/lotus-evija-electric-supercar-vs-tesla-roadster/

Lotus is taking on Tesla with a car 10 times the price ??

Well Loutis just announced they are only making 130 of these: Talk about "missing the point" ......

A site really worth monitoring in this particular field is: https://electrek.co/

  • and overall is much more efective than me posting similar stuff up (and getting 'nasty' remarks about !) eg:

https://electrek.co/2019/11/16/climate-crisis-weekly-climate-change-venice-jane-fonda-amazon-greta-thunberg/

Cheers Richard, saves me wondering and/or having to 'experiment' too !

I have used my slim (235) spare a few times (due to slow punchures via beading leaks) and could not feel much difference compared to the 255s
... but did not 'push it' too far though either

Had lots of discussions with tyre folks over the years about fitting 'oversized' wheels because 'they look good'....
and whereby "Low Profile" equates to 'and you will feel every bump on the road' too !!

Yes, and that 'gem' has been on here before (Noel-Edmunds-Mobile)

With 'ancient' tech. of course..... whereby ancient means 20 years ago of course...
(so it probably fitted right in with the BeCM then !?)

EDIT: Can't find it from last time, (probably also under "WTF" or some such !?)

_"(we fitted) a new headlining as the original was sagging. We also repaired the defective cruise control, replaced some blend motors and 'O' rings in the dashboard, and fixed the air conditioning which had a leaking condenser. All pretty routine stuff for a P38! "

Yes - but 25 K !!?? Not sure I believed the 450K dvelopmemt costs either....
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Quite an old Article there Clive ( so perhaps these 80mph did not catch on anyway....) but some good/relevant comments on there though too;
eg. Surely the safest way to have a spare in a car is too have one that is the same as the rest (as no doubt many of us on here do anyway ?) Doh !

Spacesavers just seem like a backward step in safety; Don't think they should be used 'up front' either (moreso in FWD) but it depends on the 'personal interpretation' of temporary and clearly more 'public' guidance is needed on that too...

Give me a 'full-sized wheel in a wheel well' any time (especially in a rear-end shunt

RR chose to provide steel rims and with a (slightly) narrower tyre was of course cost.... but I have also now encountered quite a few 235/70 on 7j alloys too... and now might just try them on all 4 corners anyway and report back on here ! (Might have to try it out in various conditions too of course)

Incidentallly when i had my (alloy) Spacesaver milled out (to make it a bit more universal) the engineer said it was 'poor metal, just like they use on Bentleys and Astons' !

If there was such a problem I doubt they would provide these as standard 'spares'.....

Morat wrote:

I suspect the first emergency stop would be very frightening indeed.

? Surely 2 cm difference in tyre width all round would not cause that ?

Serious question but I would not be surprised if someone has not tried it:

What would be the likely effects of having one of our (OEM) 'Spacesavers' on all four corners ?

Yes, I know it is only a matter of 255/60 to 235/70 tyres (20 mm) but it must affect traction.....

And I really still can't be @rsed to read your rambly even-further-off-topic contributions to your OWN thread/topic Lpgc !

You do know there is sometimes a 'clue' in the links - eg. -"carbon-footprint-of-a-formula-one-f1-car/" right ?

and I have no intention whatsover of providing brief summaries for you to read because you 'can't be @rsed' !

Winter tyres are great in winter ..... because of the cold (!!) and/but are made of a different compund to normal tyres of course which does not perform that well in the warmer weather. They also have a different tread pattern which is good in snow but less so in the wet....

Most of us will be aware of all this anyway but:
https://www.theaa.com/driving-advice/safety/winter-tyres-in-the-uk

It always perturbed me that Alcoholics Anonymous would provide advice to drivers though...

Oh dear......

https://co2calculator.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/what%E2%80%99s-the-carbon-footprint-of-a-formula-one-f1-car/

Thus they had better get "planting"......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/50382898

Only about 1% is from the cars of course... c.50% for transportation (not including spectators either)

but Lewis Hamilton has been encouraging fans to 'Go Vegan' of course

As for EV options I watched a Formula 'E' Race once though - very similar to giant Scalextric....