Unfortunately Clarke used that 'magical marketing word' there - "peak" ! (and for all they care that might just be for a second...)
Inside these is typically a small lead-acid battery, the kind you might find on a moped.... well (notionally) 42Ah anyway, at least if you keep it chaged up properly: I have used one of these too, again using my technique above on a main battery with the "not-quite-enough-grunt to-crank" situation (Connect the box for 10-15 minutes to the main battery, disconnect it, try again)
These latest 'baby' jump start boxes have Li-Ion batteries within of course, so not exactly designed to pump out 100 amps for 10 seconds or so either...
Used a 'SAKURA' 7500mAh for a while now with reasonable success but not exactly to 'jump start. engines...
as usually I connect it up to the main battery for about 10-15 minutes and then disconnect it and start it up.
Never tried it with the main battery absolutely flat as I expect it is far too much to ask for one of these boxes:
Should be fine used to 'trickle' the battery for a week or so (depending on the state of the battery on the bike)
Of course we could always 'just' make them ourselves .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_0BYvTkZ0o (FF to 5 mins or so)
...16-24 hours curing time (@23C+); His Follow-up vid shows they certainly held up to 10months/1000 miles
Note: I still hate them but this looks like fun !
Wonder why the purveyors of these abominations don't mention why they are such *** to remove
once we have actually realised that their 'expectations' are not realised in practice ?
https://www.polybush.co.uk/pages/why-use-polybush
https://www.superflex.co.uk/
https://www.powerflex.co.uk/
Absolutely agree (and I have seen this with other marques too): Generally Poly bushes are just Big on Hype but Low on Performance"....
Excellent - I knew it ! (pretty sure BT will have a more-detailed profile on me soon anyway...)
Here's another one that amused me: The neighbour who wants to put a Farady Screen on his hall wall popped by to show me what he bought to do this - and it was a kind of Mylar (reflective-plastic) product on a roll... I explained it might keep some heat in but would not keep the Hackers out !
Thanks for the YT comment Lpgc: Yes, such folks can get irritated for (almost) nothing: But how did you know I was a Scouser with a 'tash ??
What's 'Brexit' ? It sounds like it might be the sound of someone throwing up their breakfast/////
Tin Hat ? In fact after my 'RF Seminar' one of my neighbours has actually decided to wallpaper his front hall wall with aluminium foil.....
Back on WiFi from some 'insider data;' now it looks like about 3m 'Customers' were AUTOMATICALLY 'Opted In' to BT FON (as the Hubs used are sent out to them with it already enabled); Don't know why they did not just include 'FREE WIFI' stickers for folks to put in their windows too: This part they are not so sure of (and it seems quite low) but apparently less than 10% actually use it for WiFi roaming (?) http://goo.gl/GIPTY
If you noticed to begin with Lpgc it was quite light-heated, but (certain) folks here could not be bothered to google “Personal Data GDPR” and see for themselves but resorted quickly instead to ‘unpleasantries’, many rather patronising; Your own Courtroom Joke Scenario led to me be given ‘free legal advice’ telling me “not to sue BT”, followed by my own jokes (including ‘FleecemAndLeggit’ giving advice that may mean someone needs to 'tread carefully’ (smiley face) earning me an unprecedented accusation of 'Foolish Online Threats'; Jesus, talk about 'missing the point' !
Don’t know if you recall but when the van man was very irritated I had photographed him (blocking the drives) he called the police to complain about me (!); SWMBO was present or who knows, it may have 'gone nasty' right there; His sense of entitlement at using MY Hub with impunity was palpable….. Perhaps I should sue BT for Punitive Damages ?
In fact I deal with the local Boys in Blue on a regular basis so them then showing up would have been’ interesting’: Last week I presented the techniques used by thieves for Relay/Contactless Car entry/stealing purposes as residents had asked them for advice about using Freezers and Microwaves to store their car keys (long story... used this as a 'backdrop': https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-6631925/Vehicle-thefts-risen-50-5-years-Home-Office-figures-show.html ... and I swear that some of the residents present thought a Faraday Cage was a cage you keep a faraday in... but I digress....)
Anyway in part due this blog I explained about the BT/FON problems too; The Police seem to think that may help to explain why kids have been hanging around all over the Borough (doing anti-social things) in places they did not used to frequent before; They are going to compare this to the BT HotSpots Map: I probably should have mentioned all this to them sooner and may add this (if proven) to my ICO complaint too…
I am not sure who is to blame for the worsening many of Society's behavioural ills but I only know we may be too late:as Big Business is only really interested in profits, regardless of the costs to our liberties and welfare... but more pressure is needed on the SN perpetrators for sure ...
Sounds like there are plans afoot to 'Police' (ie regulate) some of these Digital Gangsters now too...!
As I really don't expect a suitable (relatively) concise definition to be posted on here any time soon...... here's a quick one
(..and yes Ii's about OUR rights; Who knew ?):
GDPR stands for the General Data Protection Regulation.
This regulation has been implemented in all local privacy laws across the entire EU and EEA region. It will apply to all companies selling to and storing personal information about citizens in Europe, including companies on other continents.
What GDPR means is that citizens of the EU and EEA now have greater control over their personal data and assurances that their information is being securely protected across Europe.
According to the GDPR directive, personal data is any information related to a person such as a name, a photo, an email address, bank details, updates on social networking websites, location details, medical information, or a computer IP address.
The 8 basic rights of GDPR
Under the GDPR, individuals have:
The right to access –this means that individuals have the right to request access to their personal data and to ask how their data is used by the company after it has been gathered. The company must provide a copy of the personal data, free of charge and in electronic format if requested.
The right to be forgotten – if consumers are no longer customers, or if they withdraw their consent from a company to use their personal data, then they have the right to have their data deleted.
The right to data portability – Individuals have a right to transfer their data from one service provider to another. And it must happen in a commonly used and machine readable format.
The right to be informed – this covers any gathering of data by companies, and individuals must be informed before data is gathered. Consumers have to opt in for their data to be gathered, and consent must be freely given rather than implied.
The right to have information corrected – this ensures that individuals can have their data updated if it is out of date or incomplete or incorrect.
The right to restrict processing – Individuals can request that their data is not used for processing. Their record can remain in place, but not be used.
The right to object – this includes the right of individuals to stop the processing of their data for direct marketing. There are no exemptions to this rule, and any processing must stop as soon as the request is received. In addition, this right must be made clear to individuals at the very start of any communication.
The right to be notified – If there has been a data breach which compromises an individual’s personal data, the individual has a right to be informed within 72 hours of first having become aware of the breach.
The GDPR is the EU’s way of giving individuals, prospects, customers, contractors and employees more power over their data and less power to the organizations that collect and use such data for monetary gain.
The business implications of GDPR
This new data protection regulation puts the consumer in the driver’s seat, and the task of complying with this regulation falls upon businesses and organizations. Otherwise, you’re failing to comply.
What falls under GDPR compliance?
Well, GDPR applies to all businesses and organizations established in the EU, regardless of whether the data processing takes place in the EU or not. Even non-EU established organizations will be subject to GDPR. If your business offers goods and/ or services to citizens in the EU, then it’s subject to GDPR.
All organizations and companies that work with personal data should appoint a data protection officer or data controller who is in charge of GDPR compliance.
There are tough penalties for those companies and organizations who don’t comply with GDPR fines of up to 4% of annual global revenue or 20 million Euros, whichever is greater.
Many people might think that the GDPR is just an IT issue, but that is the furthest from the truth. It has broad-sweeping implications for the whole company, including the way companies handle marketing and sales activities.
The impact of GDPR on customer engagement
The conditions for obtaining consent are stricter under GDPR requirements as the individual must have the right to withdraw consent at any time and there is a presumption that consent will not be valid unless separate consents are obtained for different processing activities.
This means you have to be able to prove that the individual agreed to a certain action, to receive a newsletter for instance. It is not allowed to assume or add a disclaimer, and providing an opt-out option is not enough.
Although I appreciate the example Lpgc it seems any/all such examples are really rather 'unpopular' on here !!
(In fact in your example the security risk is reduced as there is a paper trail from your enquiry)
It is not up to us to make excuses for Companies/Governments/whoever either: Specifics on all this have been debated for some years (and here's another 30 pages folks won't read) https://www.clinicalstudydatarequest.com/Documents/Privacy-European-guidance.pdf
The points/conclusions remain essentially the same and are encompassed of course in: https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/
However it seems it does not matter how many such links I post I still get abuse on here, and yet still without any 'counter-links' to
prove 'my' links wrong; It's truly bizarre ! (Just post up some independent proof guys; What do YOU think GDPR is for ??)
Anyway.... again BT have likely contravened several aspects of the GDPR / PECR / ASA etc: IF folks can park up and hassle folks with Hubs like this (and also potentially infringe their privacy and security) it is simply not acceptable; We can't just then say 'Big Buisness are b@st@rds' and leave it like that (and IMHO that is precisely why GDPR has come about in the first case.)
At the very least BT's HotSpot Hub 'Customers' should be treated better, and asked explicitly if they give consent to have their locations shown on BT's Map:...
Perhaps Lpgc, like in your 'Sweeney' example it will take something really very serious to actually happen before more folks 'get it'
" Dispute over covert WiFi Location usage causes fatal stabbing in quiet residential street " ? Christ I do hope not ....
Well for a start it proves you (probably) didn't read the other related links ?
eg, https://www.gdpreu.org/the-regulation/key-concepts/personal-data/
https://www.welivesecurity.com/2017/03/24/gdpr-an-explainer/
No need for any more facetious remarks: See the bigger GDPR picture !
The link in #125 was clearly an explanation as to why DETAILED LOCATIONAL data was ill advised
The main point is that such data combined with that on other databases then allows a PERSONAL PROFILE to be MADE
READ GDPR !
No Takers (yet); No problem !
Suffice it to say that when you go to the Street View (and with the little yellow chap)
on the BT WiFi HotSpot Map it shows his house number too.........................
This is a bit late (too) but FWIW here is a fairly brief description of the aims/intentions of the GDPR (and why it has 'put the wind up' numerous companies.....)::
https://www.welivesecurity.com/2017/03/24/gdpr-an-explainer/
...... Do feel free to spread it far and wide !!
-I also now have a (suitably-doctored) BT Map of my neighbours hotspot to post up on here (but won't myself as I would have to open an account with another nosy US-based Photo-Hosting site: If someone has posted photos on here please PM me your e-mail address and I will send it (unless this impinges on the GDPR. obviously !)
Ok then Lpgc/Brian/Chris, all fair points and I will try to answer the questions and summarise (and to an extent repeat) the situation in one post if that’s OK chaps:
General: The new GDPR and other related ‘rules/guidelines' (eg. PECR and ASA) which are aimed at stopping the Big Boys from treating us Peasants all like ‘commodities’ ( and/or numpties) have, one way or another, been infringed by BT.
Patently if we can all be inconvenienced by a Van man etc (and not know why) then something is ‘wrong’…
..
Specific: Folks on here are tech-savvy and so might say ‘so what’ ? Less tech-savvy BT BB neighbours are rather more incensed: As mentioned I am pursuing this with BT/ICO (and mainly for the neighbours now); From my ‘awareness’ campaign alone I suspect of the millions of ‘Free’ BT HotSpots maybe 2/3rds of them don’t know it means them ! What will happen next ? Perhaps specific OPT IN will be required or advised. Maybe 00000s have been unwittingly inconvenienced, maybe it is one of your own poorly neighbours ?
FON: Again, it may great to have a ‘shared service’ like this, but only as long as we know the Full Facts too, ie. BT can’t just hide it away in their Ts&Cs and say “So what ? “ !
What I have found out is that many using BT BB simply don’t like this (and without prompting from me come to some rather interesting conclusions eg. “Is that why BT have been trying to get me to upgrade and to a higher-power hub ?”
Personal: I really don’t like what some have posted up here (not you three !); When I start to be falsely accused of Online Threats and other nonsense then ‘something has gone wrong' there too I’m a Big Boy myself, expect better. but will/can ‘dish it back’ too: I really don’t care what “Fleecem&Leggit” have advised (Morat) either … but it’s still hilarious ! ..Similarly it is ‘disingenuous’ when I post up a link, not even my words and get unpleasant (and misinformed) abuse, surely that’s what rrs.net is for !?
Overall I suppose it is my fault for mentioning it; God forbid it might actually help someone !
Brian: Did not actually find out what SMS app. he was using, just that he had been there 30-40 times late at night, engine running using it (although my neighbours suspected he ‘was watching porn’ !)
Lpgc: A lot of this stuff is counter-intuative, yes: Seems like we have trusted the Big Boys too much though, and expect the likes of BT to ‘somehow be doing the right thing/s’ !?
Incidentally I did not see you last paragraph when I replied last night: ‘Knives and shooters?? Maybe you were watching The Sweeney: “ Look out Guv’nor hes’s got a WifFi !! ” ?
Chris; Yes, GDPR, is a massive topic and will continue to be so (but not on here ?)
A bit late - and also debateable - but if LR had been made to meet certain Directives/Regulations (eg. concerning EMC and Product Liabilites) early enough then we would all likely have had 3rd-Gen Receivers fitted (and for free) !!
Sorry Lpgc thanks for your considered input but it's only going to be a quick reply but Locational Data is essentially classed as an "Identifier" within the GDPR as in: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/
... and yes, that's the point, it _could _be used with other types of personal data to build a 'profile' of folks (ie. like the SN so-and-sos have been doing for years......)
'Strava' were included as an example within that 'livingmap' article as to how/why detailed locational data could present (US) problems....
As you Zoom In(the resolution is too course for you to get much 'intrusive' information (unless you Log In and identify yourself);
FON is similar, BT's maps are IMHO far too detailed....
The man in the van was definitely using an SMS App. as there was a 'witness': (Nosy neighbour's son with binoculars; Seriously !!)
I may ask for my poorly neighbour's permission to post up his original FON Location (suitably disguised) so you can better see what
the hell I am talking (and most angry) about !
Interesting to see what happens as/when you Zoom In:-
https://www.strava.com/heatmap#12.00/-121.67282/38.17023/hot/all
A-ha ! I have just received this from someone who actually 'gets it' (and they sent it to me without any unnecessary insults attached, too...) !
https://www.livingmap.com/technology/location-matters-geospatial-information-under-gdpr/
Really can't argue with their conclusions....
"Conclusion: Understanding location matters
If there is one thing to take away from the examples above, it’s that personal location data is extremely valuable. GDPR will increase the pressure on organisations that process data (that’s most of them), improve security standards and create transparent communication about how and why data is used.
Greater understanding and transparency about different types of data and the consequences of its use is something both companies and users will benefit from in the long term. "
(Morat: HINT:
Please don't send them patronisng notes stating how "this shows how 'Understanding location doesn't matter' " or some such nonsense !?
Guys, Guys. Guys.... I never thought I would say this but I am beginning to understand just why TOAD simply repeats "Read RAVE"....
because folks don't (and he did not write RAVE either) !
Lpgc: See #68 (!!) onwards......
Sorry RR I have read the relevant parts GDPR, and posted up lots to substantiate my 'case' too.....
not just MY opinions and yet received manly criticism for it; Plus I don't care that much either:
Thank goodness other Fora etc have 'got it' - and without various insults ( not from you) !
Ok, one last go RR (as you really aren't going to read those links are you ?... but it is highly recommended)
There are two reasonably distinct issues here, what our personal data consists of and what Personal Data means according to the GDPR
Examples are tricky but on another Blog I frequent someone else also asked about Phone Books as in " Surely 'that would contravene GDPR then ?"
Well yes it would if folks popped by to use your phone occasionally (eg at 2am) and you had not been warned about this sufficiently and signed up for it (without it being explained properly or by default) but it was all in the lengthy small print at the back of the book. Ah yes, but then 'it says you can use their phone like that too'; That's fine, Your Choice:
Yes, many -once inconvenienced like this- would go ex-directory..... Their Choice... and so on...
The parallel here with BT FON is that many seem to have been Opted In by stealth, eg. via subtle on-line changes on their website...
IMHO Ts&Cs need to be in writing (and about now many I have alerted to this are requesting them...)
Yes; folks should read the Ts&Cs: GDPR aims to end this kind of thing as I explained in several posts now (or at least tried to);
Explicit Consent is required...
In summary I -and many others- had their Privacy (and possibly Safety) impinged upon by BT 'assuming' it was OK to show our Locations on their Map; Again for my poorly neighbour the harm/suffering caused was most probably also 'material' under GDPR Rules.
Have a good (quiet) weekend everyone, but do be careful just what you sign up for !
Well actually that was sarcasm followed by the 'charging for it' joke
Besides it isn't a Public Service since I (sensibly) opted out
But wait,.... we are paying for it, so why do they say it is FREE ??
/sarcasm off again
EDIT: Just Had a quick rumage around for official interpretations of PD that said NOT LOCATION and ADDRESS............ Happy Hunting !