:whistles:
(off air)

tbh, the SDRs available with a web interface fascinate me.
http://websdr.org/
if you haven't seen it.

Sloth wrote:

When you entered the EKA through the Nanocom, you turned the ignition off and on again, did you try starting straight after entering EKA, without cycling the ignition?

I did. I tried lots of different combinations and nothing worked once the batteries were out of the remote. Richard is probably right (he usually is, afterall) and I took more than 60s to enter the EKA after unlocking the door. It's a bit annoying that entering the EKA doesn't reset the timer, but hey, Now I know!

It's a 4 hole cylinder tank underneath the boot floor, the dual tank setup from Tinley Tech, but I don't know where the pickup is!

I'll get back to CB and 11m (receive only of course!!) one day. There are some great spots round here where you can get high up and hear the world, especially with a 3m tank whip :)

Here's a video I made of me putting the key to posn2, entering the EKA with the nanocom and then switching the ignition off and then to start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tMiymAG3LI

I just hope that the fob responds to new batteries!

So you've got a week of "Shall I tax it?" :)
tbh, you haven't got much lawn left to lose so you may as well wait to tax it until the first of December and dirt track it round the garden for a week :)

I turned the immobiliser off in BECM Settings and once I remembered to "Write Settings" it fired right up :)
Phew, one functional vehicle!
We'll just have to revert to traditional locking/unlocking with a key until I get the fob sorted out. It all serves me right for looking at it the other day and thinking "You know what, once we've got the heater box changed over there's nothing really left on the list"
Idiot!

For the record, the exact message was "Engine Disabled" then "Press Remote". This reset after entering the EKA via Nanocom but reappeared as soon as I tried to start the engine. When I disabled the immobiliser, I got a message saying "Start Engine". Which was nice....

haha, now you can have it taxed before it leaves the trailer!

The only possibility I can see is that because the fob has no batteries in it, the passive immobiliser isn't getting any signal from the fob at all and that is preventing the car from cranking. BUT I don't know if that is possible on a P38, I'm going with experience from a BMW.

I'll check the exact messages again when I get home, but I'm still definitely unable to start it.
Oh, and the alarm doesn't do the little squawk when I open the door on the key like it does if you open the door with the key after locking with the fob.

Hmm, I smell problems.
I can lock/unlock with the key (All doors) but the engine is still disabled, even after unlocking with the Nanocom.
Bollox.
edit: I guess the next step is to enter the EKA and then disable the immobiliser using nanocom?

tbh I haven't tried that. I assumed (!) that the nanocom would be eqivalent to the door lock method. I'll give it a go tonight - I'm hoping I'm not in danger of getting into some extra-locked-out mode if I keep trying.
I've ordered a new back and batteries so I'll give that a go as well but I suspect I'll be buying a new fob very soon (payday tomorrow!) and then hacking the existing one to bits looking for bad connections.

Ferryman, I did wonder if there was something odd going on like that so I tested the two batteries in the back/holder and got 6V. The back is incredibly hard to turn in the fob though :(

Trouble is, I can't start the thing without the fob working. I can enter the EKA via nanocom but it just won't start. Last night it started after about 5 attempts (maybe a fluke connection from the battery) but this mornng without batteries working in the fob - nothing. Just "Engine Disabled, Press Remote"

Whut? The OAT red stuff lasts 10 years?
Shame mine was just pumped out of a cracked radiator stub :(

Thanks Richard. I guess it's time to break out the soldering iron. Until then I'll just have to leave the nanocom plugged in :/
FFS.

Is there a correct tool for removing the back of the keyfob? I'm totally unable to remove it without knackering the slot which means I need to buy a new one each time for fear of being left with something that will be stuck forever.

Also, I've been getting intermittent Key Battery Low warnings recently, and now the damn thing won't work at all. No red light, nothing. I finally got the back off and tested the batteries at... 6.02V. Gah.

The contacts look to be springy and in the right place, is there another fault that could cause this? (I suspect there will be several options).

Time to bend over for the Landrover dealer and shower him in money for a second fob :(

Lpgc wrote:

Just finished changing a brake cylinder and shocker on my son's old Hyundai Accent that'll be going to girlfriend's son in law for him to learn to drive in, sat in my car recharging laptop and waiting for a Freelander to be dropped off from an accident recovery firm.. I'm tasked with fixing the Freelander's LPG system, fitted less than a year ago by 'LPG Experts', because apparently ever since the accident (body damage repaired a while ago now) the LPG system has cut back to petrol when owner puts her foot down... Yeah rite! Me thinks it cut back to petrol when she put her foot down even before the accident but we'll see.. I bet she got a bad neck from the accident as well!

Morat, looks like most bits are BRC - Reducer is, ribbed back ECU could be Europgas or Piro but is most likely BRC Seq56 (since BRC/Bosch sensor is pictured T'd into reducer vac connection). Difficult to make injectors out as many types look similar to those but they'e not BRC - Maybe GFI, Tartarini, Rail. etc.. Which could be problematic on a more demanding engine if ECU is Seq56 as best results would only be with quicker injectors, but I reckon probably workable on the 4L Jeep. How does it drive on LPG?

Since nobody's been banned yet for talking Jeeps and this will still be under 300 words (ahem Gilbert! ;-) ]... My Jeep saw the road for the first time in years the other day, just a trip to the jet wash. Before standing it up I'd at least disconnected the battery, so that was OK just wanted a charge. Charged, checked engine and ancillaries weren't seized, it started first turn of the key and drove OKish except for some steering warble that'll be down to corroded discs, I hope. This has a K&N too...I nicked it's shallow design pre 2000 air box to fit on a post 2000 model I converted a few years ago. No clearance between air box and bonnet with new style air box and a mixer fitted. Would have been plenty of places to fit your ECU without the K&N...

Simon

Simon,
it runs OK on LPG, but only OK. The idle is rough and it sometimes cuts back to petrol on full acceleration, usually when the LPG is below half full. The system is a bit of a compromise being a BRC that was installed about two years ago to replace the original Dream XXI which was 11 years old. Everything was replaced apart from the spuds (?) where the gas goes into the manifold. The other thing that was original for a while was the 12V feed to the gas ECU but when I fixed the aircon it turned out that the LPG was being fed from somewhere that went well below 12V as soon as the aircon compressor kicked in. Woops. Then when the installer looked for a new feed he managed to fry the LPG ECU which has been running really well as long as the aircon was off. He replaced the ECU FoC (of course) but there wasn't a whole lot of time to get a new map done.

So that combined with what I reckon is a pretty substandard location for the LPG pipes is probably the reason it's not quite 100%. Maybe 75 :)

gordonjcp wrote:

Since nobody's been banned yet for talking Jeeps

No, but maybe for that aerial - hope you're not a bloody CBer Morat, get a proper licence :-D

HAHA, funny you should say that :) I was spotted by a local amateur (at the tip of all places) with my antenna and he persuaded me to come down to the local amateur group. Not that I needed much persuasion because I was already thinking about it but their instructor spent most of the time slagging off people who use CB so I didn't feel very much at home. I might go back, but honestly I'm not sure I'm that excited by the group of ancients that were there. I'm not averse to a bit of morse, it's an old skill I'd love to learn but I'd be much more interested in setting up a software defined radio running out of the back of my PC.

The CB is just for giggles and doesn't get a lot of use. I've also got a couple of handhelds but apart from when we're on the boat they only really get used when my wife and I are driving in convoy (usually to some garage or other!) and my 5yo wants to talk to Daddy :)

That is very reassuring to hear! Thanks Chris :)
(Now I want that Rangie too... but I can't afford three thirsty 4x4s!)

I put new leafs and shocks in mine, they're pretty cheap, and its happy bouncing along now :) XJs are sensitive to heat it's true but like anything else they're much better with proper maintenance. I changed the rad in mine, unblocked all the silicon from the thermostat and lo and behold, it's bang in the middle of the dial all the time. The transmission can overheat too if you're offroading in High Range - but you shouldn't do that anyway.
They're very basic compared with the Range Rover but that's also quite appealing, so is the relatively light weight at 15-1600Kg. I'd always choose the Range Rover for long motorway trips but an engine and trans that will make it to 250,000 miles without a rebuild is not to be sniffed at - even if the thing will rot through the floors well before then if you give it half a chance!
I do love the comfort and style of the Range Rover but if I didn't have the reliability of the Jeep to fall back on I doubt I'd be able to entertain the tantrums that the Range Rover throws.

I hope this doesn't get me banned either! :)

And one for Simon so he has an idea of what he'll be up against... as you can see the LPG doesn't really enter the manifold very close to the cylinders :( Sorry for the idiot arrows, I put them on this pic for an American XJ site where the concept of running a Jeep on Propane is a real novelty.

LOL it is - but I prefer to keep my Jeeps bouncy and my Range Rovers smooth :)