This is my favourite bit of GDPR (so far), from a US site:
" Sorry ;-(
You are visiting this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore cannot grant you access at this time. We are unable to bear the GDPR compliance cost at the moment. Come back again some other time. "
Overall probably the real 'sticking point' remains this clause:
"Legitimate interest"
"In specific situations, we may require your data to pursue our legitimate interests in a way which might reasonably be expected as part of running our business and which does not materially impact your rights, freedom or interests"
Although I have asked a few to explain this (eg. who decides what is 'reasonable'and/or 'materially impacts', US or YOU ?) but have nor received any answers (so far)...
and which thus probably tells us all we need to know...?
Looks like this mystery caller has been fairly busy.... https://180info.co.uk/number/07481141993....
Wonder if he will stop now or just sell it on...?
Not done it yet but the next time I am asked for personal details I will just say no - GDPR !
Expectations are Lpgc that the whole GDPR issue will be decided by the huge fines that can be imposed if companies don't comply.
From all the "Stay on our distribution list" etc 'requests' we have all been getting recently there are a considerable range of different
interpretations of what will be expected of them now....
-They are now supposed to make it easy to OPT OUT now rather than assume if you don't/didn't respond you have thus OPTED IN....
and they are supposed to tell you what personal details they have on you if asked.... and I have done this with a few myself...
As for 'cold calls' my assumption for some time is if you 'press "X" to be deleted from their lists' they then just sell your number on
as 'live'.... Many calls now are just (deliberately) presented as "INTERNATIONAL" and so can't really be Caller ID blocked of course:
Needs sorting by BT, don't hold your breath !
Again as far as any 'Services' are concerned if they are 'free' then WE are "The product" (and have been for 15+ years...).....
It's a bit gloomy but such 'Social Networking' Services have been sold just like drugs... their first ones are also 'free' ?
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Yes when they are stuck on like that it's a real pain... Loads of 'dissimilar metals' corrosion... Pop off the centre cap and squirt some freeing oil in there and leave it overnight.... loosen the nuts and get a rubber mallet, lie on your back and whack away...(gently) at the tyres (or use a wooden drift/mallet on the rim...)
Will PM a 'less conventional' suggestion too
With Oldshep56's problem it does not work with a 'burner'/PAYG phone of course, particularly if the 'perp' is mobile...
As previously stated It should always have been OPT IN not OPT OUT. that's how the problems/mess started.
But what's 'bugging' (!) me the most is how many different interpretations of GDPR there are so far...
You have been able to tell Cold Callers not to call for some time, but then they just sell your details on to another one !
Thus they delete your details from their Database but they just go elsewhere. I have been know to ask such callers to
tell me their exact postal address, fixed telephone numbers, Company Registration, etc etc... and that usually did it......
Yes OldShep56, if you receive "nuisance" calls like that 'they' (The Networks) can trace/store them (for Legal reasons).....
but they really don't have the storage to record absolutely everything from everyone....
although Royal Mail may be more private now than e-mail for sure !
Back on GDPR this is the kind of thing we are all receiving now however of course:-
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We recognise that the privacy and security of your personal information is of the upmost importance.
This notice sets out what we do with your information and how we ensure its security. It also explains where and how we collect your personal information, as well as your rights over any personal data we hold about you.
This policy applies to you if you use our products or services in our shops, over the phone, online or if you are interacting with us on social media.
What sort of personal data do we collect?
Information that you provide to us by phone, online, email, post or social media such as your name, address, telephone number, email address, payment details such as bank accounts and methods of payment and feedback.
Your account login details, including your user name and password.
Books and products that you have ordered or services used
Information about any device you have used to access our Services (such as your device’s make and model, browser or IP address)
Consent
We will only collect and process your data with your consent. An example of this would be when you tick a box to receive emails about events.
When collecting your personal data, we’ll always make clear to you which data is necessary in connection with a particular service.
Contractual obligations
In certain situations, we need your personal data to comply with our contractual obligations. This may be to contact you in regard to an order you have placed or to post an item to your home address if that is what you have requested.
Legal obligations
There are occasions where the law requires that we may need to collect and process your data. For example where criminal activity relating to Blackwell’s occurs.
Legitimate interest
In specific situations, we may require your data to pursue our legitimate interests in a way which might reasonably be expected as part of running our business and which does not materially impact your rights, freedom or interests
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But here's the (their) problem with that last one: Then who exactly decides what does/does not 'materially impact' on US ?
(...as, according to that statement, THEY do...!)
That's right.... according to them you don't actually consent to it but they can do with it what they will...
For instance if FaceBook took that stance it would make a complete mockery of the GDPR...
which currently seems to be wide open to (deliberate ?) misinterpretation
GJCP: ...." was a reasonable threat of a very well-resourced government ".....
Sloth: .... " wicked deal on tinfoil ".....
Many such Public Systems are only allowed by the relevant 'Security Forces' because they are 'officially hackable' - ie. with some 'co-operation' from the Networks etc. And at times of 'National Emergency' (whatever that means these days) the GSM encryption can just be turned off of course..........
The main point is that we are all tracked/(tricked ?) at ALL times via Smartphones/GPS/Wifi/Apps...'Soclal Networking' CCTV/Face Rec/ RFID etc etc and have been for some time...but will GDPR apply after Brexit ??!
Seriously, that's why Governments store huge amounts of (unprocessed) data trails for all of us, it is 'in our best interests'...
and so that's why the bad guys now use Carrier Pigeons and Royal Mail etc instead .... or... wait... just meet in person
Sounds quite similar to the "IRS Scam" nonsense in the USA.... "Send us money ASAP (via Gift Card !) or we will arrest you tomorrow......"
Eg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6Rwc8lNn0k
Don't know how many there actually fall for this either....
Part of the problem here Chris is that many 'services' rely on "OPT OUT" when clearly "OPT IN" should be deployed, hence all your neighbour's unsolicited post. Who has the right to sell OUR personal details to OTHERS (other than Mark Zuckerberg I mean) ?
Also guessing your neighbour received a new Contactless Credit/Debit Card without actually asking for one ? I have had similar discussions with elderly folks - who generally don't realise there is (currently..) a £ Transaction limit, but prefer to use cash for such purchases anyway (and not just because they think they are being "monitored"). Same with the TPS idea - they still get Cold Calls from abroad, often with a spoofed UK tel. number Caller ID....
Another part of the problem here of course is the elderly folks who 'run' this country and are also totally clueless about IT or technology in general.....
No, wait.... "Diesels are the future".... err.... No, make that "Driverless Cars are the future".....
It's all part of 'Retail Analytics' Brian
https://www.cognizant.com/InsightsWhitepapers/Retail-Analytics-Game-Changer-for-Customer-Loyalty.pdf
OR:
https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/retail/how-we-help-clients/big-data-and-advanced-analytics
Obviously this is not for the Retailers .... it is all done for OUR benefits................. yeh, right..... (just like 'shrinkflation'...)
The key phrase in the second link is 'targetted data mining'
Yes, sounds familiar Brian; Many Retail organisations have been doing this type of thing for years too.... they use "Loyalty Cards" for all kinds of nefarious/marketing purposes
The interesting thing is that if we went into a shop and they said "by entering this shop you have agreed to be tagged, identified. followed (even if you don't buy anything) and we can sell your details on to other shops" we would be straight out of there of course !
There is definitely a rush by some organisations to send out stuff before the GDPR 25th May deadline too...
Incidentally I won't Tweet either; They 'own' you....see https://twitter.com/en/privacy#update !!
That's true Chris, but I suspect it depends mainly on just who 'they' are and also where they are based (?)
I believe the privacy problems really started when Data-Bases compared (and sold) our personal details:
How did we ever allow this ?
About 10 years ago I was a big supporter of ID Cards. The plans for these were dropped in 2010....
something to do with "possible infringements of our personal liberties etc" (and other similar nonsense) !
Incidentally here is a 'Handy Guide', only 184 pages long.....
Have to admit I am not a big fan of cookies, particularly the third-party variety, and some of this stems from RRS.net several years ago.....
whereby I had realised it was actually trying to set 37 of them.... and just how this would "enhance my web site experience" eluded me...
Most would not be too worried about (primary) browser-identifying cookies etc but it has all 'developed' much further beyond that.
IMHO the main problem with GDPR legislation is that it is probably 15+ years too late......
I would be more concerned with Diesels as they are making the Emissions requirement more stringent: Apparently some folks are panic selling their diesels (or, more sensibly, just getting MOTs done early - ie. before May 20th.)
Happy to help Gilbertd: hope it is/was the CPS (-it sounds like it). No doubt the mini does not throw up a Fault Code for it either. just like on our P38s....
Reluctor Ring pins are steel and should be (relatively) OK .... That said I know the CPS core/pin is just a few tho. away from those pins but I don't know what makes them actually touch together either (unless when really hot...?)
Fair point - I should have mentioned I was suggesting the (flying lead) ADU734O/SEB100 variant for Aragorn's '94 GEMS....
As many will be aware the LUCAS/TRW buyout was really just the name and their stuff comes from (very) afar now due to 'global
manufacturing trends'........http://www.lucaselectrical.co.uk/lucas-history.html
Have to admit I assume almost all 'mass manufacturing' of automotive components is 'elsewhere' these days....
but I also assume virtually all 'genuine'/OEM stuff on e-bay actually isn't either...
I replaced my CKP/CPS with one also designed for a mini/metro/maestro = ADU7340 = for about £20... and (..wait for it..) Made In England !!
EDIT: From a quick check on e-bay there are LUCAS equivalents SEB100 for about £25-30 too (but/and of unspecified origin...)
Incidentally I don't know quite why these go out of spec. either (as it's basically just a coil around a core/pin). The distance to the flywheel pins is
critical ( but unlikely to change unless damaged) so perhaps the magnetic properties change over time/heat (cycles) etc ?
Yes an iffy crank sensor can do that !
Sounds promising Sloth: Hard to tell though if it took 18 months for that iffy plug to corrode so badly,
'Keeping an eye on (suspect) things' is our 'owners motto' of course.....
Sadly e-bay is rife with all kinds of suspects/fakes, especially electronics stuff (as many have found out the hard way....
it seems I have become an expert on counterfeit memory cards like that): Markings/Holograms etc are cloned too,
and apparently regardless of bad feedback stating this !
Many of the (genuine) manufacturers have areas of their web sites telling you what to look for (but often 'too late'):
http://www.ngk-sparkplugs.jp/english/techinfo/fake/
(Yes of course the Counterfeiters also read this data in order to improve their fakes...)