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Received and with the extras you'd put in there, thanks.

Anyway, back to the plot. Got stuck in pulling it apart after I'd spent an evening moving the non standard coil location out of the way, taking off assorted plumbing and wiring for the LPG system so I could finally get to the engine underneath.

The engine itself looked pretty clean on the outside, but taking the plenum chamber off and it started to look a bit strange. The inside had a layer of brown oil emulsion on it

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and the intake trumpets looked even worse and appeared to be covered in mud!

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Yet once the inlet manifold was off, the inside of the engine was spotless, even the rockers looked like new

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But with the head off, the cause of the noise was all too obvious

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Having cleaned up the head, it does need a very light skim so will have to wait until my local machine shop is open again on Monday before I can drop it in.

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Being a bit curious of the state of the inside of the plenum, I told the owner about it. When he had bought the car he'd spoken to the previous owner who had rebuilt the engine. It had suffered an overheat which had caused a liner to leak so he took it to a mate who took the engine out. That went away to be rebuilt with top hat liners, the Kent cam and Stage 2 heads (allegedly, although they don't look much different to standard to me) and was refitted by the same guy that had taken it out. The lazy sod hadn't even bothered to clean anything before putting it back together so the gloop inside the plenum has been there since before the engine was rebuilt and it as a result of the overheat that caused it to have to be rebuilt in the first place. I reckon I'm going to have to spend more time cleaning than I am putting it back together!

If it is the DSP amp in the process of turning up it's toes, then Marty has produced a drop in replacement that uses 4 door amps from the pre-DSP model. At least that allows you to keep the original head unit so it all looks original.

I'm not fussed about touchscreen either. The works van has a do everything unit in the dash and it seems to do everything but nothing properly and is a nightmare to use. I decided I wasn't going to leave my P38 original, as originally it was supplied with no stereo at all. I've got a Kenwood BT73, DAB, FM, MW, LW, Bluetooth, line in, CD and dual USB. When outside the UK I use a 3G tablet to listen to internet radio through the line in. The satnav is a Garmin stuck on the windscreen. Not only does it work but it's future proof as if technology changes, I can just change it for something else.

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Oil in it is a bit black, would've thought a bloke who had spent so much on custom parts for his car and is also the son of a garage owner would have changed the oil before it got like that.

Nope, that's called maintenance and is a mystery to most of the kids these days. I'm not far from the East of England showground where they hold the Modified Nationals every year. The roads are clogged up with lowered, wide wheeled, custom paintjobbed, drainpipe exhaust equipped cars and a fair number of them clog up the hard shoulders too. Seems kids these days will think nothing of spending a grand on wheels, another grand on a stereo system, a couple of grand on body mods and paintwork but can't stretch to 25 quid for a gallon of fresh oil.

I actually meant which P38 but if it has the DSP, Marty is the only one that may be able to explain what is happening.

You've definitely got something that isn't right. I was only thinking last night, while hustling mine around some pretty narrow lanes with variable road surfaces and camber, how nicely it handles for a 2 and a bit tonne car. Mines done a lot more miles than yours too.

Which car is this on and does it have the DSP amp?

Although it's plastic as long as you don't get carried away and get it too hot, it should be possible to sand it smooth.

Very nice job except for the snorkel. If the water is deep enough to get drawn into the air intake, it's deep enough to drown the ignition coils and spark plugs (not to mention getting inside and drowning the BeCM) so isn't really needed.

My local factors had a generic sidelight bulb holder which fits in the hole but the connector was wrong for the plug. A bit of carving away of the plastic made it fit.

Not necessarily, I've got a set of deep ones too. Got the coils, LPG injectors, alternator, PAS pump and AC compressor off it so far so I'm down to the engine. Head should be off by tomorrow evening so I can drop it in to be skimmed on Saturday. If I get it in first thing, they may even be able to get it done by lunchtime. No gasket set yet either......

Dead easy to get to it on a GEMS, although it does have to be routed behind the alternator rather than under it. Not got a Thor here to have a look at I'm afraid, all 3 parked outside are GEMS, but I would suggest that it does need a clip. Rather than Jubilee you'd be better off with fuel hose clips or the springy ones used on LPG hose. Thinking about it, the throttle body can be removed on a Thor, why not take it off, change the hoses and put it back on?

I believe you are right, that would have been Clive.

I used my engine crane to change the engine on a Toyota MR2. Used it first to lower the unbolted engine down to the ground, then used it to lift the body up. Slid old engine out and new one in, then lowered the body back down and lifted the engine up into place.

I'll own up and admit I very nearly bought one exactly the same as that (yes, an Orvis with real leather and wood that somehow the Yanks manage to make look like plastic), except it didn't have the scrapes on the front or the mangled filler flap. But I decided that at £800 it was too expensive so over 4 grand is just plain silly.

If you paste a link into the box marked Image above, it'll show like the second one has.

For the first one I had to open it, right click and select copy image location and paste that into the box.

I must admit, it looks even nicer than the H&H. How about a picture of all 3?

Considering you own one example of probably the 3 most desirable P38s ever produced, anything else is only going to be a disappointment.

How to post pictures is here https://rangerovers.pub/topic/193-archives-and-posting-pictures-documents but rather than photobucket most now use imgur.com as it's free.

Isn't there something on the Thor engine where there's a plug for the coils and another plug that should go somewhere else that can be interchanged? Have you connected everything up right?

Any generic OBD code reader should tell you which cylinder is misfiring with a P030x code, although you might be unlucky and just get P0300 which means multiple misfires. The price of the Nanocom keeps going up as it's priced in Euros. When I got mine the pound was worth almost 1.5 Euros, now it's down to 1.08.....