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I might be in trouble - she's dropped onto her bumpstops :(
I'll see what can be done before Friday but it's looking grim. There might be a cheap hotel room going!

LOL!
that didn't quite sound like I intended :)

I'll bring an old blanket or something to protect the precious leather!

Yep, in the Alexandra House so I can be chauffeur for people with clean arses :)

I'm coming! Not sure whether I'll be in the hotel or somewhere else.. (maybe a tent!) but I'll be bringing a nanocom, some hand tools and I'd just like some knowlegable people to have a poke around the Range Rover and see what is going on with the ABS and the EAS. Whether it'll be possible to fix it during the weekend is down to what is actually wrong, I guess. I'm not going to buy loads of parts in advance "just in case" so I'm really hoping to get a plan together for how it can be fixed up during the rest of the summer.
Hopefully my Rover will be drivable most of the weekend so I could be the Go-fer.

I'm not a mechanic by any stretch, but I'll try to make myself useful :)

edit: I've just booked the hotel for the Saturday night. I'll probably stay with a mate on the way down on Friday night so I can be around on Saturday morning in decent time, then head straight back North on Sunday whenever we finish up.

Five hours and he still isn't back - time for a search party?

MartyUK, that's a very kind offer :)
I do have 2012/13, apparently with speed cameras.
Most of the roads are still right, of course.

I can't bring myself to rip out the standard NAV which is still working after 15 years, even if it is woefully out of date (there were a LOT of roundabouts on the A1) so we use phones and Brodit mounts which are extremely practical even if they can only ever look after-market.

Yep, black. It says Wabco and Ranger Rover on it, which has got to be a good start :)
SRD100501 which comes up as:
https://www.lrdirect.com/SRD100501-Ecu-Traction-Co/

So yep, I guess it's the right one. If only I knew someone who could test it... ;)
The box is clean and has the label but it isn't new judging by the mounting holes and the connectors which show some slight signs of use.

The ABS/Traction issue is still intermittent. However, I drove home from work with the ABS/Traction working fine and mounted the kerb when I parked up - instant ABS warning on the dash followed by the Traction a couple of seconds later. It was the Front Left that went up onto the path. I've noticed the fault appearing sometimes when off road (mild gravel tracks with ruts/tight corners) but couldn't be sure which corner had been moving at the moment the fault occured - so I think it's worth checking the wiring right back to the ECU on that corner. I guess I'll need to work out a way to move the suspension/steering through the full range of travel while I have a multimeter hooked up. This could be a bit of a head scratcher :)

I think pushing the sensor in/charging the battery have been red herrings, but at least they were free :)

I've just had a poke through the box of bits that came with The Duchess (because she never carries cash) and found what looks suspiciously like a spare ABS ECU. At least, it looks like a smallish ECU and says WABCO on it.
Hmmm....

oops!
I think I'll edit that :)

Oh, I'm definitely coming to summer camp :)
Although I don't think I'd get many cheers for arriving on a flat bed!
Thanks for the offer Marty, appreciated.

In the meantime, I think it's time to get busy with the soapy water and a spray bottle.... that EAS has GOT to be leaking somewhere.

Did about 350 miles this weekend. There's definitely something weird going on!

It all started out fine, no ABS beeps or Traction warnings. However, the EAS has a habit of rising from motorway to normal to offroad to the emergency high level even when driving down the motorway at 70. If you press the EAS inhibit switch it still does it, just far less often. I've got used to pressing the EAS down rocker every 30 minutes.
I had one fault with the four lights flashing, dash message and a beep. I reset it with the nanocom after reading the two normal faults "Pressure switch failing to close" and "Invalid fault code".

Then after a couple of hours driving we hit some traffic and whenever I pressed the brake there was a rapid clicking relay noise. It didn't seem to be the ABS activating, it wasn't very regular and the pedal feel was fine. Then the ABS Beep went off, closely following by the traction warning and the relay noise stopped. The ABS would be an intermittent warning until then, now it's constant. I guess something has gone pop.

Interesting times!

It does sound like you've cracked it.
Good luck! :)

I've nothing useful to add by my genuine commiserations at having such a persistent problem :(
Best of luck in fixing this, and well done for standing by it so far. I'm sure my remedy would have involved some matches and a can of petrol by now...

It was probably a slow enough leak that the hot coolant evaporated before it hit the ground and then the pipe sealed again as the system cooled.
You can still lose plenty of coolant during a long drive with no visible signs when you stop.
I hate coolant leaks :(

Welcome! and having drooled over a couple of ads for 30th Anniversary P38s recently, congratulations!

Mrs M reported that the Traction Control error had returned. I wondered if the ABS sensor had vibrated out again, but there was no ABS warning. So, I checked through the nanocom and found only one error "invalid fault code" on the EAS system. I deleted it and the TC error on the dash dissapeared. So it looks like there's something strange going on in the EAS.

So, I had a play with the EAS in light of what Gilbertd said in my other thread and confirmed it won't lower to motorway position automatically. If I press EAS inhibit and select motorway it'll go there. If then switch off EAS inhibit, the EAS stays in motorway when above 50mph and returns to High as normal when you drive through a village at 30.

Finally, one of the codes that I've seen in the Motronic was "rough road signal implausible". Unless anyone has a bolt of inspiration I think I might be asking MartyNZ about EAS ecus in July....

Whaddya reckon? :)

and isn't it great :)

OldShep56 wrote:

Marty and Gilbert are the P38 Gods as far as I am concerned, Morat. They're always worth listening to and taking their advice and help.

No question about that!

Gilbertd wrote:

Morat wrote:

In other news, the EAS has stopped automatically dropping at >50mph and returning when you slow down. It does what you tell it to if you press the EAS Inhibit button but it just stays on the middle mode if you leave it alone.

Huh? That doesn't make a lot of sense. If the Inhibit button is pressed, it will stay where it is and won't drop after 30 seconds at more than 50 mph and rise back up again at more than 30 seconds at under 35 mph, it will just stay at whatever height it was at. It's recommended that you use it when towing so it always stays at the correct height needed to keep the trailer level. Also with it pressed in, you can manually select motorway height which you can't do with it out. With the Inhibit not pressed, you can use the rocker to select access, normal and high but not motorway, with it pressed, you can select them all. If it isn't dropping automatically when it should, then it might be that the Inhibit switch has gone short circuit so the ECU thinks it is in when it isn't (although that should cause the switch light to come on too to show you it's pressed in).

Gilbert, I'll retest and see make sure of what's going on. What I can be sure of is that the EAS doesn't seem to automatically switch between motorway and normal (or back again) even with EAS Inhibit out.

OK, some progress :)
The ABS sensor was indeed just not fully home. It is now - and the TC and ABS warnings have ceased. The ABS works! Hurrah!

The O2 has been replaced with a Bosch part and that code has gone. Strangely the adaptive values out of range codes still return, even after resetting the adaptive values and clearing the codes. I'm wondering if there's a vacuum leak somewhere or maybe the MAF is suspect after all....

In other news, the EAS has stopped automatically dropping at >50mph and returning when you slow down. It does what you tell it to if you press the EAS Inhibit button but it just stays on the middle mode if you leave it alone.

Getting better though :)