As the VSE picked up an advisory at MOT a couple of weeks ago for the exhaust being "generally heavily corroded, but structurally sound and not perforated" together with the fact that while I've been hammering around underneath doing the suspension more of the exhaust has turned to powder and dropped in my eyes, reluctantly something had to be done, so I bought one of these off the Bay
I'm not expecting much- it's bound to require some metal bashing to fit, probably going to be boy-racer loud and be made of stainless steel tinfoil, but at £250 it's not much more than the mild steel ones.
blueplasticsoulman wrote:
FFS.
As if you've previously fitted Terrafirma's and didnt enlighten us.
Well, you'd already bought them by then...
My Terrafirma experience wasn't relevant enough to a P38. They were on my old Hybrid, which had an 80s RR Classic chassis, on coils, with a 4" lift.
Ah, I thought when you said you were putting on Terrafirma shocks that you might not get the airbed ride you were seeking, but I didn't want to hurt your feelings by saying so. You were so pleased with your bargain that it wouldn't have been right to rain on your parade.
I had Terrafirma's on my old Hybrid- boy were they stiff, even on coil springs and a 4" lift.
Ah well, your parade is now thoroughly wet now. Shame- they were cheap.
You'll find the Boges are a magic carpet ride. If you have to replace your father-in-laws, Island are currently the cheapest supplier I could find.
You're not related to a guy called Smiler are you Paulo? He's another DSE owner on here. Used to come round a lot, but we don't see much of him these days.
Adrian Flux demanded the LPG cert every year I renewed the policy through them with the same blinking insurance company! Every year I told them that they had the copy, it didn't expire or change, but I still had to re-send the original scan that I sent when I first insured the car.
Admiral CC operative just had to get his Manager's approval. No question about whether the cars were on the UKLPG database (they're not), but both cars are classed as Dual Fuel on the V5s, not that they asked that either.
Just goes to show that the requirements seem to be on the whim of whoevers setting up the policy.
Had to do a quick bit of welding yesterday. Well, I say quick- welding took 5 minutes, disconnecting every ECU and electronic item in the car took about 3 hours!
Being Mr Ultra Cautious and not used to welding on any car that actually has electronic modules, I followed the instruction in RAVE to:
- Disconnect all ECUs.
- Disconnect airbags and sensor system.
- Remove airbag modules. See
SUPPLEMENTARY RESTRAINT SYSTEM,
Repair. - Disconnect alternator.
OK, I didn't remove the airbag modules and carry them in a bomb box to the middle of a field, but could see the logic in the rest of the instructions.
My question- has anyone ever blown up anything electronic (or heard of it) on a P38 when just following the time honoured method of disconnecting the +ve and -ve battery leads then hitting it with the MIG?
no10chris wrote:
... I use it quite often as other half works there, £2.30 for top wash with staff card 👍
How much for the full bed bath Chris?!
blueplasticsoulman wrote:
Orangebean claims he has 7 year old Poly bushes still in good working order.
Well, to be strictly accurate, I said that the ones on the blue car weren't showing any symptoms of wear. Not taken it to bits to examine though
The ones on the black car were mostly shot though, with a few knocks and clanks, but no wheel shimmy or anything scary.
Both pretty much same age and mileage, neither offroaded although blue one was used as a builders van before I got it.
So my cars are sitting either side of the fence in terms of the durability of polys. The difference in ride harshness is noticeable though and the Lemforders are quieter, but I fitted new Boges to replace Monroe Adventurers at the same time, which obviously have considerable influence on the ride as well.
Blue one definitely handles sharp directional changes at speed better (more controlled body roll), but that's on Koni's which are probably the key influence on that!
blueplasticsoulman wrote:
You saying that's a good thing or bad thing?
Neither! (well the one in the pic is a bad thing)
Just an observation on how long the poly's stand up (or don't). The orange one's are the softer "road" ones, compared to the black competition ones.
My blue car's still riding on polys fitted in March 2010 20,000 miles ago. No rattles, clanks or steering issues.
Not wanting to hijack your thread BPSM, but on the subject of Polybushes v original rubber and longevity, here's one of my panhard rod polybushes. These were genuine Polybush (not the Britpart orange ones) and were fitted to the car in August 2012. Distance covered 19400 miles.
I'll be interested to see how the new Lemforders stand up.
That's interesting BPSM- my rear arch liners have a nicely finished notch cut out in line with the top bolt so it's easy to get a socket with long extension on the bolt and extract it that way, as well as getting a long fat screwdriver in to align the replacement shock with the hole for the bolt.
I was assuming it was factory and how thoughtful it was!
Distracted by finding a stress crack in a panhard rod mount, so welding took precedence over LPG today!
Tomorrow, however, I'll get stuck into it.
Can't help much there BPSM- my new Boges came with the correct washers (assembled upside down to catch the unwary) and dropped straight on.
There's already a "cup" on the chassis that's designed for rubber to metal contact so if you had managed to squeeze the new washer in it would likely have caused problems.
It sounds like you and Robbo1 have done the right thing.
Thanks Lpgc
I'll know later what mods are required and what existing bits I can reuse. Need to get brakes and stuff finished first :)
Well, according to Tinley's:
"It is exactly the same unit - just with a different badge, if you remove the small brass adaptor in the unit, a standard Zavoli type temp sensor will screw in.
Apologies for any confusion but the Italian LPG equipment industry is going through significant change with many company buy outs etc - we actually have the Zavoli units badged in four different ways and it is a bit of a lottery as to which turns up when we order them!
Please let me know if there is any problem with the sensor but rest assured the unit is identical rather than equivalent so you should be able to get going today."
So I'll see in a bit when I get to the workshop. Need to finish the rear wheel bearings, brake pads, shocks and panhard fitting first.
Gilbertd wrote:
From the picture it looks like there's a brass thing screwed in that the temperature sensor would push into. If you unscrew that does it leave the correct size threaded hole? The lack of male to male pipe to connect the inlet filter solenoid is a bit of a problem though but I suspect they expect you to mount the solenoid remotely and connect the two with a short length of copper pipe with nuts and olives on each end.
I'm not going to start dismantling it yet- I've a feeling that it'll be going back to Tinleys, so that they can send me what I paid for!
I can't even find any spec sheets for the one they sent!
Kit here for dessicant replacement:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/P38-RANGE-ROVER-AIR-DRYER-REPAIR-KIT-NTC9812-FOR-EAS-AIR-SUSPENSION/272726693222?
I'll be doing that Gilbertd. The one I have is going to be tricky to use without me buying a different temp sensor, even if it is directly comparable with the Zeta S how will I know that?!
Here's the pic of what I ordered from their site. You can see the difference in temp sensor...
I'm a bit hacked off as other half needs to use the car to pop up to Brighton to see #1 daughter this weekend, and if she has to do it on petrol it'll be a severe blow to the housekeeping.
Well, shiny shiny arrived today- great service from Tinley, but I'm slightly puzzled. Ordered a Zavoli Zeta S, was invoiced for a Zavoli Zeta S, what I have looks similar to my Zeta S, but it's a Tomasetto (see pic). I seem to be missing a male/male connector for the Valtek 07 solenoid as well. Temp sender fitting is different to the 10mm threaded hole that I have in my current one, so my sender won't fit.
Before I make a fool of myself with Tinley, by accusing them of sending something that I didn't order, have Zavoli now become Tomasetto or something?
