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If your a total P38 nerd like me, even have a special shirt "cough". you will love it.

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A very good book documenting the history of the P38..

A great read.

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Not too doom and gloom I did smear some on paper and it seemed "brown" rather than Black..

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In two minds whether to keep the unit in, change the oil etc or rebuild the donor I have and throw that in?

She did shift ok, however on the return journey around 1 1/2 years ago now whe did tend to hold in high gear until the engine really struggled.indicative of old fluid i suppose.

Oh and ford is usually

Fixed
Or
Repaired
Daily

lol

Really Always Nicely Generously Equipped - Rides Over virtually anything reluctantly..

in my particular case ;)

This September we will be celebrating the 25th anniversary of our beloved P38..

A model maligned for being "too complicated" the old duchess after a long while is finally being appreciated, a model often bypassed for the L322 and classic.

Often completely ignored, the limelight has finally been passed.

Looking at the iconic bodywork it may not seem like 25 years since the first Range Rover P38a was launched. Taking its unusual name from the number of the building where it was developed at Solihull, the P38a had big boots to fill thanks to its role as successor to the Range Rover Classic.

With its angular bodywork, it looked rather classic from the start, while the front headlamps had become rectangular and housed within an imposing grille, it still looked "classic"

The P38a received mixed reviews, it was a remarkable off-road as we know despite its hefty dimensions and emphasis on refined luxury. The P38a defied the age-old thinking that in order to successfully traverse difficult topography you somehow had to compromise on comfort and features that make day-to-day driving more pleasurable.

Comfort and performance

With the P38a, you could literally climb mountains while kicking back in comfort on the best seats the motoring industry had to offer. Pair that up with air conditioning, an expensive stereo and premium trim you had the perfect off-road vehicle!

The motoring press eagerly lapped up the chance to test the new Range Rover whenever they could. Advertisements showed the P38a driving through a brick wall as if it simply wasn’t there and Land Rover keenly demonstrated their new height-adjustable air suspension, which now came as standard.

Sales were strong, but every now and then, there was a grumble that it wasn’t the original Range Rover, now commonly referred to as the Classic – Land Rover simply took the fact that their initial offering had stolen hearts so effectively, as a compliment, as this affection temporarily blinded some to the technological advances in the P38a.

Unfortunately, the P38a hit some bad press with some electrical niggles, resulting in the model temporarily carrying a somewhat undeserved reputation for poor reliability. However, with some time and patience, the vast majority of those issues are now understood and are able to be remedied with relative ease.

As the P38a gains its classic status, there is a renewed appreciation for its impressive capabilities on and off-road, as well as its remarkable comfort levels and that perceivably charismatic persona.

Now of course I could of posted this in september, but chances are I would of forgotten..

Anyway an early Birthday to our P38's the Best RR by Far ;)

Just a 'fred dedicated to tracking the price and sale of P38s all over.

Anyone fancy a cheap VSE?

'tis in Lancs.

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Been run on a shoestring though, COILS!!

Nice colour this one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-p38-vogue/383014547186?hash=item592d722ef2:g:XbIAAOSwFsBdCop4

Repainted my Mirrors.

Before,

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Masked up lol and 3 coats of paint

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Lacquer and wetsand = a pretty good finish.

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What ya fink chaps?

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Robbo1 wrote:

StrangeRover wrote:

Robbo1 wrote:

How do you rate the poor boys. I was thinking of trying the black on mine .
Rob.

It's Great stuff Rob, easy on easy off and lasts well too!!

Poorboys Blackhole would go well with your dark paint, it also has fillers in it that mask swirls and scratches not that yours has any..

The Wax in my case is Nattys Blue they also do white not really any difference apart from the smell, both smell edible..

Henry,..

My son said he has some Black Hole I can have so I will just have to get the Nattys Black wax. Looking forward to having a go with is lot. I don’t know if it will make much difference. I will post a picture when it’s done.
Rob.

Its great stuff will add a real depth and gloss to the paintwork,

Robbo1 wrote:

How do you rate the poor boys. I was thinking of trying the black on mine .
Rob.

It's Great stuff Rob, easy on easy off and lasts well too!!

Poorboys Blackhole would go well with your dark paint, it also has fillers in it that mask swirls and scratches not that yours has any..

The Wax in my case is Nattys Blue they also do white not really any difference apart from the smell, both smell edible..

Henry,..

Robbo1 wrote:

Well done that’s looking very nice. What wax etc did you use on your car.
Rob.

Hiya Rob.

It was Megs ulimate compound on a DA followed up by Meguires Gold class wax + a layer of poorboys Blue wax

In an effort to make mine look 1/2 as good as Robbo's i've run it over with a DA with various compounds with varying sucess.

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Also gave the Wheels a tough of Wax/Sealant.

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My interior is slightly grubbier ha,

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My 2002 Vogue SE.

Wow, breathtaking..

Thats what i want mine to look like..

Might as well print that off and stick it to the wall for inspiration..

lol

Just a few piccies to bump the thread ;)

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Just a few after a machine polish and a spruce up she was covered in 1/2 of pigeon shit. lol

Any updates?

I heard the Goverment is looking to only raise the duty 1p for the rise in tax against Petrol/diesel so in all likely hood it'll take 30+years for LPG to be equal to petrol..

Assuming petrol goes up too much..

Love me some LPG ;) lol

Lpgc wrote:

I 'like' Gilbert's #20 post on this.
But I think most people's idea is to pretend they're using all the gas for heating purposes (chicken pens, etc) and none for road use thus avoiding paying any road fuel tax or just paying a bare minimum to cover their backs.
Unlike diesel (red) LPG isn't (and can't be) marked to differentiate between heating or off road fuel and road fuel.
Some suppliers will be happy to fill any tank almost regardless of how you've modded it, like by fitting a liquid take off to connect to a vehicle filling pump.
Can buy second hand 'Smiths' pumps (similar to those forecourts use) occasionally on EBay for £500. A UK spec bayonet type fill gun is a bit expensive but you can buy Italian dish type spec fillers new and reasonably cheaply from suppliers such as LPGshop and use an adaptor.
There isn't much duty on LPG when bought from a forecourt, legally you should pay the same duty if you fill at home. If you pay the duty it's likely to be no cheaper than filling at a reasonably priced forecourt... But it's possible to illegally avoid paying that duty, and then if you get a good deal on heating LPG it can work out way cheaper than filling on just about any forecourt.
Few years since I looked into it though. Even back then some suppliers wouldn't fill any tank except one you rented from them and would make sure you hadn't modded their tank - expensive. You'd need a supplier who would fill any tank (one you bought outright and cheap) and didn't ask any questions so would fill a tank that you'd modded by fitting a liquid take-off.
Quite fancy doing the same myself! Maybe I'll look into it again.

Definitely worth looking into then by the looks..

How is the LPG situation at the moment?

Do you think it will really take off in the coming years?

So...

Low mileage then lol!!

Mine is only 248k behind yours!! ;)