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If your a total P38 nerd like me, even have a special shirt "cough". you will love it.

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A very good book documenting the history of the P38..

A great read.

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Not too doom and gloom I did smear some on paper and it seemed "brown" rather than Black..

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In two minds whether to keep the unit in, change the oil etc or rebuild the donor I have and throw that in?

She did shift ok, however on the return journey around 1 1/2 years ago now whe did tend to hold in high gear until the engine really struggled.indicative of old fluid i suppose.

This September we will be celebrating the 25th anniversary of our beloved P38..

A model maligned for being "too complicated" the old duchess after a long while is finally being appreciated, a model often bypassed for the L322 and classic.

Often completely ignored, the limelight has finally been passed.

Looking at the iconic bodywork it may not seem like 25 years since the first Range Rover P38a was launched. Taking its unusual name from the number of the building where it was developed at Solihull, the P38a had big boots to fill thanks to its role as successor to the Range Rover Classic.

With its angular bodywork, it looked rather classic from the start, while the front headlamps had become rectangular and housed within an imposing grille, it still looked "classic"

The P38a received mixed reviews, it was a remarkable off-road as we know despite its hefty dimensions and emphasis on refined luxury. The P38a defied the age-old thinking that in order to successfully traverse difficult topography you somehow had to compromise on comfort and features that make day-to-day driving more pleasurable.

Comfort and performance

With the P38a, you could literally climb mountains while kicking back in comfort on the best seats the motoring industry had to offer. Pair that up with air conditioning, an expensive stereo and premium trim you had the perfect off-road vehicle!

The motoring press eagerly lapped up the chance to test the new Range Rover whenever they could. Advertisements showed the P38a driving through a brick wall as if it simply wasn’t there and Land Rover keenly demonstrated their new height-adjustable air suspension, which now came as standard.

Sales were strong, but every now and then, there was a grumble that it wasn’t the original Range Rover, now commonly referred to as the Classic – Land Rover simply took the fact that their initial offering had stolen hearts so effectively, as a compliment, as this affection temporarily blinded some to the technological advances in the P38a.

Unfortunately, the P38a hit some bad press with some electrical niggles, resulting in the model temporarily carrying a somewhat undeserved reputation for poor reliability. However, with some time and patience, the vast majority of those issues are now understood and are able to be remedied with relative ease.

As the P38a gains its classic status, there is a renewed appreciation for its impressive capabilities on and off-road, as well as its remarkable comfort levels and that perceivably charismatic persona.

Now of course I could of posted this in september, but chances are I would of forgotten..

Anyway an early Birthday to our P38's the Best RR by Far ;)

Just a 'fred dedicated to tracking the price and sale of P38s all over.

Anyone fancy a cheap VSE?

'tis in Lancs.

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Been run on a shoestring though, COILS!!

Nice colour this one.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-p38-vogue/383014547186?hash=item592d722ef2:g:XbIAAOSwFsBdCop4

I've bought a new/used latch for the drivers door..

The circumstances to how the previous one failed has me worried..

It appeared to die right after i pressed the tailgate button, Fuse 15 went POP and it hasn't worked since.

I've had to disconnect everything in the tailgate to stop the fuse blowing..

I'm thinking as to connect the new latch, will fuse 15 blowing damage the latch?

Also is it possible for a faulty latch to cause the fuse to blow?

Cheers H

1 i've finally much to my wallets dismay, bought myself a door latch and handle and am currently waiting for it to arrive!!

Anyway i have a few questions?!

1 the rear tailgate doesn't work, i've been told it grounds through the door latch?

2 fuse 12 or 15 can't remember blew when the latch went bust, is this par the course?

3 Is there a sequence to fitting this latch? do i do it with the battery disconnected?

Oh and i'm uber excited, hopefully i'll get to hear the V8 after a year of sitting!!!!

Cheers all!

First of all!

1) why is it necessary for the vehicle to be up to temp before it'll switch?

2) Is there an infrastructure building for the fuel?

3) oh and Range!

What is the best range you've all been able to achieve on LPG?

Thankyou

H

Find out what number your P38 is from the Vin??

Bear with..

There were 167000 P38 made, roughly, is it possible to find out what number out of those 167k mine is?

Any help truly appreciated,

LOL.

Hmm.

I seem to read a lot of the influx of these new fangled vehicles that are powered by magical electrical pixies that come 'oot of a plug 'innit! ;)

Now, my Old P38 will take, by my financial estimate and general dafuq calendar, roughly 8yrs to get to pucker condition.

I want to do some travelling with her once i'm done, will all these new emissions laws cause any issues regarding this, what will happen to these fangled stations that produce that magical go Juice, petrol?

She'll be on LPG and petrol obvs ;)

I've always thought about hitching up a nice tin tent and travelling across Europe. France - Germany - Poland - etc. and of course everywhere as is possible in the Uk.

Now I know ya'll can't predict the future, but is it feasible that these old petrol/LPG machines will still be going in the future?!

And a nice post on how electrickery is crap would be nice.

Anywhoo..

I pick up the spanner and screwdriver and head towards my 38a and can't help but think, whats the point if i'll never drive it..

Anyway

I'm rambling..

Here's a nice P38
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It's mine BTW ;)

Any words of wisdom for an profoundly odd 18yr old..

Henry.

The ole' beast will be used as a toy when i eventually get around to rebuilding her..

At this moment in time she has an AC Stag premium LPG system on her.

84ltr tank
OMVL reducer
etc etc

Is it worth keeping?

Of course it'll need a recon as will the car but will LPG be necessary on a vehicle that'll only do 1-2 k per year?

Cheers

I was fortunate enough to find this forum thanks to Chris PMing me via RR.net..

This place is truely incredible, probably one of the best foums i've been a part of...

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that easy to find.

Is there any way we can get the word out??

I've tried to advertise on other forums but they think its spam, and either delete it or ban you.

Also this place seems to be perdominantly P38 based.
RangeRoverP38Pub the No'1 P38 specialist forum he he he Ahem..

Henry,

https://www.autoclassics.com/posts/reviews/why-you-want-a-range-rover-p38

Keep finding these reviews on the tinternet.

It looks like the P38 is coming into the spotlight, finally after all these years of being slated..

I wonder if the L322 will go the same way.

Quite an interesting resto of a P38 HSE.

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=228134

Lovely colour!

Is it possible to replace the rear quarter panels on the P38,,

My NSR quarter is fill of filler and dents..

The corner has been caved in and filled with filler!

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I can't even get a strong magnet to stick to the corner!!

Cheers

I've been pouring through some lesser forums ;)

And there are quite a few engine upgrades available.

Mustang Injectors which i think are Bosch Gen III units.

Tornado Chips

Cylinder head porting/polishing

And High lift cams

Are the above upgrades worthwhile?

People have said 300hp is possible with a healthy engine..

They've also said Fuel economy has improved slightly..

Is this to be believed or is it all hearsay?

H

Hello Chaps..

Where about's is the engine identification number?

Cheers H

I haven't had the time to start a thread about my beloved P38...

Many people have said it's a waste of my time etc etc but i'm determined to get this P38 upto concours of somewhere near.. Hopefully.. lol

Here are some Pics i took featuring some "upgrades" i added.. lol

The Below Pic was taken just after me and my dad picked her up..

she drove the 45mi ok but i did notice a high pitched whine coming from around the transfer case area
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After getting her home i performed a good clean up to asses the bodywork..

It was/is clear that she has spent a large amount of time under a tree because the paintwork was filthy and the sunroof was gummed up with plant sludge..

After..

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She may look ok'ish in the pics but be under no illusion, she requires a full respray to get to a state i'll be happy with...

The previous owner said he had caved in the rear quarter and had it "repaired"

I'm sorry but what stretch of the imagination is this a repair?!

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There is also evidence of rear arch rust..

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Full of filler!!

I've been trawling other lesser RR forums and they have threads didicated to Pics and i dawned on me that we should have a thread on 'ere dedicated to showing off our beauties.

After all I like looking at Range Rovers ;)

This pic was taken just after i got her, july'ish 2017.

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And the same day after a good clean and polish.

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She looks a tad worse for wear at the moment.

However i plan on giving her a strip down and full rebuild in the future.

LPG. in forum Opening time

Weird question time..

My Vogue has an off brand LPG system fitted, offbrand meaning i don't know who made it..

Of course when i come to put the RR on the road in a few yrs i will have the system overhauled.

Will LPG be in your opinions the next best fuel for our thirsty V8s when Electric cars take over?

There doesn't seem to be any hate towards LPG at the moment.

It's apparently a very clean fuel.

Also what do you think will happen to service stations when the number of petrol and diesel cars start to drop?

Will there be dedicated LPG stations i wonder?

H

First of all Sorry for the landslide of threads i'm creating lol.

Anyway.

I've been looking through google and it seems RR P38 could be had with some lavish OEM options.

I:E The extra wood i've been really lusting after.

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Another few things upgrades are the exterior bits

The Front nudge car and light guards i rather like, also the side steps in my opinion look rather smart.

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What do you think?

Are there any other OEM upgrades/addons i should consider?

I've been toying with the idea of colour coding the Front Grille.

my Vogue would look like the link below.

whatya fink?

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