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As long as you can get it undone without breaking anything in the process there is no harm in doing it. When I've swapped them before on LPG cars the stuff that comes out of them has been rather horrible looking, though that might be the case with them without the LPG aspect as its rare they get changed.

When i replaced my radiator (the first time) with one from ECP it took no end of messing about to make it fit. That was an EIS one, same as the brand of most of their condensers. I ended up replacing it after managing to put a hole in it, This was with a nissens one, that fitted perfectly with none of the previous messing about. If your radiator isn't an original one the chances of it being identical to original aren't guaranteed, which can exacerbate the problem. I did find the EIS one to be particularly bad though (like worse than eBay sourced ones for other vehicles have been) and would suspect the condenser you have had might be one of theirs?

Morat wrote:

Well, if I had known that I could have just dropped the Duchess off at JLR and saved Marty all that trouble!! :)

To be fair, They offer accurate recreations of the originals, That might not be a good thing in all cases, though probably less of a problem with the p38 than some of their other creations. Having seen some of the original engineering (xyz switch being one example, there are others) you'd want an improvement rather than a new example of the original design.

Depends how critical the parts your looking at are - My mate with his series III can still get most bits he requires, though some drop in and out of availability. Some bits can be worked around (bolts and non critical fixings), others are due to part numbers being changed.

It helps that the engine isn't the Land Rover one in his, although getting parts for the mid 90's Iveco diesel its got seems to involve going back to one of the main dealers as the local parts counters can't do much without a reg number!

3 hours or 177 miles according to Google. Either find Simon on here and drop him a pm, or have a look at his website and he should be able to help you/Give an idea what your looking at.

http://www.lpgc.co.uk/ is him.

Simon/LPGC is the only installer I know of on here, but it might help to given an idea where you actually are located? Hes in South Elmsall, Yorkshire.

Gilbertd wrote:

This one came with a 10 year warranty, maybe because earlier ones broke......

What I couldn't understand is that if I take stuff to the council dump, there's an area for small electrical items and they would quite happily take it yet leaving it out with the recycling bin, which goes to exactly the same place, and they didn't?

Got as much of the dust off under the bonnet as I can but I can safely say that brake cleaner doesn't work. It turns it into mud then evaporates so it's even harder to get off! All I need to find is a ford that hasn't dried up.

They typically sell what can be sold from there, if its in the back of a refuse truck crushed up all they can do is dispose of it. I'd guess thats why. Plus they have to draw the line somewhere - presently down the road from me there are several boxes, a matress and divan bed. Which as you'd probabbly guess, they didn't take those either (some people would struggle with the meaning of small, and leave cookers/washing machines/fridges out).

Agree with Clive on the Dyson front - everything with that name on it seems excessively noisy to me, again maybe improved with the newer stuff. Wouldn't mind betting your 10 year guarantee is parts only though?

Strange thing is alot of the ones out dumped for the dustbin collections are usually Dysons, either because they are popular, or more inclined to break (I'd favour the later personally).

Gilbertd wrote:

Having just bought a brand new Dyson, I suspect someone might not appreciate that idea......

Cleaned the fan and shroud off and wiped some of the worst off the alternator and other places. Hopefully it will just get blown off over a period

I'd suspect not - But surely you have an old one kicking about somewhere you use for that sort of job?

I'd give the brush attachment on the end of the vacuum cleaner hose a try if you want to remove the worst of it.

StrangeRover wrote:

I wondered what this plug was for in the glove box lol
https://i.imgur.com/ARBxCb7.jpg

I've removed and refitted the lock quite a few times, each time i've had to unravel and re solder the separate wires!

https://i.imgur.com/ZFFclGS.jpg

Why would the previous mechie do this?

Is there a known fault with the block connectors?

It might be worth popping the connector in your photos apart and checking what the pins in there are like.

I did think about coming up (its only 1/2 hour from me to Billing) but ended up instead spending this weekend troubleshooting brake issues and replacing the other coil pack instead (and would have been a Disco anyway, so wouldn't have helped on the p38 front).

Given I have no A/C on that, and brakes that have started to disappear (Think the master cylinder has had it, and now awaiting delivery of bits to sort that) the idea of the convoy really didn't appeal to me.

Lpgc wrote:

R.e. dryers, I'm no expert on AC but understand the principles except for the importance of the dryer. I believe dryers can in theory become kind of saturated (maybe for want of a better term), which I expect would effect flow, but I've never known an AC system not work due to a problematic dryer... anyone else?

I've moaned about my AC not working (not a P38) and my attempts to fix it on another thread. I may have time to give fixing it another go tomorrow after I've been to the dentist, more brazing but this time with a bit more prep and just trying to get the front AC working rather than front and rear evaps both working.

I believe the problem/need for a dryer is to avoid sending water through the compressor (where it would freeze and become solid) or blocking up anywhere else in the system. Of course you shouldn't actually have any moisture in the system in the first place though, so its only there as a precaution as far as i know.

Morat wrote:

EV are the future because you can't retrofit electric drive to existing cars. There's no profit (and no tax) in extending the life of existing vehicles. The reduction of pollution always involves the sale of new vehicles. Euro 1-6 is a study in planned obsolescence. Forgive my cynicism but I can't imagine anything less likely to make it as a government policy than "No, keep the car you have. We'll reduce the emmissions by 20% by giving Simon £1500"
Quite apart from the fact that there are very few LPG fitters I'd trust with my vehicle.

What would I give to know the real reason that manufacturers gave up on factory fitted LPG. I'm pretty sure they saw that legitimising LPG only ate into their potential for sales of NEW! CLEAN! cars. The fact that most of them were diesel and were more filthy then the petrol cars they replaced just proves that it's a cynical exercise in flogging shit to the sheeple.

"Factory fitted systems" are merely systems fitted by an approved third party working with the manufacturer (or were at the time anyway). Any number of reasons, but I'd suspect the main one is having to deal with broken systems at a later point (an awful lot of BS appeared to go around this - one of my neighbours used to work in a Rover dealership doing MOTs, and he said they were told not to touch any of their converted car's lpg system unless they were Corgi registered - which would be irrelevant anyway, but seems fairly typical of the misinformation spread about by them). I'd suspect also having to deal with the customers with the cars in question (Ford being a good example here - you can buy the replacement injectors but only with the inlet manifold, at approx £1400) and problems either caused by ham fisted technicians or problems they didn't properly understand didn't help.

Also the road tax system here doesn't really make sense on petrol cars post 2001 - The 2001 Galaxy I've got costs £315 for a year (2.3 petrol). The same vehicle produced after 2006 would be £540. That alone is obviously enough for some people to be put off of a petrol version (and the discount is only £10 for having it on LPG, not in proportion to the amount of reduced emissions it actually produces having been converted).

More likely it was LNG for buses? That tends to be the preferred option for heavier vehicle, though CNG also possible as its used elsewhere.

Just means its natural gas rather than Propane, but even more limited options for where you can fill up here (Bus operator would have their own facility so not an issue for them).

StrangeRover wrote:

Also what do you think will happen to service stations when the number of petrol and diesel cars start to drop?

Will there be dedicated LPG stations i wonder?

H

And there are a few dedicated autogas stations - some around Birmingham only do autogas, Some of the convertors still about have a pump as well on site, which is available for customers. Some of those sites are old service stations that used to retail petrol/Diesel but no longer do.

Technically yes its possible.

Its not financially sensible though - You need a suitable electricity supply for the pump, a Pump, somewhere to put the tank, and even more of a problem is someone willing to fill it at a sensible price (and thats before you get into buying the tank, and getting the paperwork/certification of it to get them to fill it as well).

Trouble with the orange cylinder route is they just don't hold enough, and the gas inside them is more expensive per kg than the pump variety as well. Thats before you get into the road duty side of discussions as well.

no10chris wrote:

Maybe I’m wrong with the part, just know I’ve got to change a part, thought it wa fuel related, has a pipe off each end, one end goes to throttle body, never got round to tracing the other end and won’t for a few days ( back has gone, ffs )
Will try to get part number

Rigid plastic pipe would be the throttle heater feed?. Known to be brittle and troublesome, Guess its one of the pipes connected to this plate on the bottom of the throttle housing that you need to replace.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Range-Rover-EFI-V8-Throttle-Body-Heater-Plate-Repair-Kit-MGM000010K/400340367805

Doubt thats anything to do with it, though I seem to remember someone else (on here, not sure who offhand) had issues with running after removing that plate, due to the threaded holes providing a hole in the bottom of the throttle area that bypassed the MAF and butterfly and stopped it running properly. But unless you've taken the plate off and not filled the holes in that shouldn't be your problem.

Lpgc wrote:

The aircon connectors arrived so without checking I think they only came from Manchester and cost £7, seem to remember seeing them on EBay from Singapore for less than £3. I bought the brazing rods from Machine Mart Doncaster for about £35 or £40 (so very similar price to that you paid Bri).

When I get time I'll try my option 3 (in my last post) and if that doesn't work (I think unlikely it will) I've thought of an option 4... Measure it all up and see if I can get a hydraulics firm to make full length rubber/flexible separate lines for LP and HP. But could a hydraulics firm get the fitting that goes into the rear evaporator right? They're not screw on hydraulic fittings, just smooth pipes with O rings, just push in and are clamped from behind by a plate that is secured by a bolt between the pipe holes.

Your best bet on the pipe for the evaporator is to get them to reuse the one you already have, if thats possible. The only pipe I've had made up (out of necessity at the time as the one on the car seemed to be an oddball one and the usual one for that car was just too wrong to make work) thats what they did (used the new rubber bits and joined the metal between old and new).

The only other thing that gets recommended elsewhere is to get a mobile A/C specialist to come to you.

On the Chinese front - If they say they are in China on the item location, then I'd expect it to come from there. When its not on is when they say its in London/Portsmouth/Manchester etc then you get a china post tracking number instead. Generally those are the ones to avoid, as if they misrepresent their location that will tend to be when the product is more likely of a poor quality. Theory also says they should get caught for import duty, but practice suggests it gets ignored most of the time. Probably due to the value in most cases being fairly low.

Been there, though Singapore preferable to China. Its when you come to return them the fun can begin, cost to do so is usually more than the item is worth and non-refundable. Hence why i only buy stuff from Chinese sellers at a price i can tolerate throwing it away if it doesn't work.